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originally posted by: stormbringer1701
if he was leading a armed insurrection why would pilate , who dxed and executed many jews for so much as protesting levies for the aquaducts to jerusalem say that he had found no fault with him. why did Jesus tell peter to put his sword away (before he (peter) got the whole early church killed.)
you know what? i am tired of this crap. some people make any damned accusation out of whole cloth for what ends no one knows.
Various consipira-kook theories: Jesus was gay! Jesus was banging a prostitute! Jesus was the che guevera of the ancient realm. Jesus was an alien! jesus was satan. Jesus was al bundy! (married with children) Jesus faked the moon landing. Jesus shot JR and JFK.
give it a rest and read the Gospel to find out what Christ was really about.
originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: Sigismundus
If you equate Rome - being the great power of the time - to the USA, then in modern terms Jesus would be classed at best as a cultural insurgent and at worse as a terrorist.
I imagine these days, with a general pacifist mindset and a message to more or less be nice to everyone, he'd be labelled by Fox news as a "liberal, PC idiot" and be ripped to pieces on right-wing forums and by those of a similar mindset on ATS.
'Pilate was a man of narrow, stubborn and sadistic disposition, infamous for his venalities... his heartless insults, his thefts [from the Temple Treasury], his numberless outrages and wanton injuries, his summary executions without trial, and above all his constant and egregious cruelty...
according to Dr. Reza Aslan's book.Taking a scourge and whipping people is probably not an example of pacifist love of one's neighbour..
If the Temple existed as it was today and I had a gun with blanks and shot it towards people, would the fact that I didn't hurt anyone make it a no-violent action? Would that be the deed of a 'pacifist'?
The question many have is : Is this the kind of behaviour that Christians should emulate?
Should we go around with whips and cords when we enter a modern Bank and start knocking things over and throwing things around because the Bank skirts both ethics and the law? Would this story suggest that we should start yelling at preachers who quote the most proposterous lies and exaggerations during their sermons?
Where does it all end?
Pacifism? Really, now.