My sleep Wifi Experiment proved Wifi does interfere with sleep, dreams and ear ringing.

funniest thing I have read on here in a while.
Still chuckling at your last paragraph OP. ..about how you would like to be paid and do this in other people's homes !! what would you need a grant for exactly ? are you using specialist equipment while your unsuspecting subjects are asleep...albeit restlessly for the first two weeks of your ' study '

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

No creeping I had permission to enter in. We have known each other for many years

a reply to: ChesterJohn

You asked them if you could turn their W-FI off and on every night for 2 months?

a reply to: reldra

wwwnc.cdc.gov...

www.sciencedaily.com...

healthypets.mercola.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Just because they can, doesn't mean they will. When conducting an experiment, the more control measures you have in place the better. For the sake of this thread, I brought up the ability for a person's pet to disturb their sleep as they are easily capable of doing. This would indirectly falsify the responses given by the subjects.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

No creeping I had permission to enter in. We have known each other for many years

No chance!!

If my best mate asked if he could sneak into my house every night as I slept for reasons he was unable to explain, as much as I trust the guy I would be demanding he hand over the spear key I gave him.

originally posted by: Klassified
Studies are mixed on radio signals(wifi), and electronic devices in general, like cell phones. At this point, no know health side effects are known to be caused by low output radio signals such a router. However, some people do say they sleep or feel better if they shut their electronic and wireless devices off at night. Psychomatic? Maybe, but if it helps...

To those who criticized the OP for going into the couples abode at night; He did say they went along with the study. Sounds to me like he had their permission.

The first big suggestion on a good night's sleep is to remove electronic devices, including old digital alarm clocks from your room. That is mainly due to the temptation to look at them, which may wake you, especially for peple who use those devices for work. Though, there are some studies, especially in regard to cell phones, that show they MAY interfere with sleep. The alternative, to wake on time, is to get an analog clock.

The data on this is thin, though and what I noticed bothered me most was tiny lights on my laptop and external tiny speaker were really annoying.

However, the OP does not say he got their permission. He says he did this without them knowing. Creepy.

originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: reldra

www.sciencedaily.com...

wwwnc.cdc.gov...

healthypets.mercola.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Just because they can, doesn't mean they will. When conducting an experiment, the more control measures you have in place the better. For the sake of this thread, I brought up the ability for a persons pet to disturb their sleep as they are capable of doing. This would indirectly falsify the responses given by the subjects.

The only time the cats interfere with my sleep is if they cannot get out or in. That is an easy fix. I just leave the door open a crack. Other than that, no interference.

The cdc.gov, zoonoses in the bedroom, leads to a page of a bunch of things, none of which are zooonosis. I already have toxoplasmosis, in my right eye, in remission. It is not causing me sleep problems.

i can confirm these results. i turned off the wifi random nights and my wife had similar results

originally posted by: dashen
i can confirm these results. i turned off the wifi random nights and my wife had similar results

I just love how clueless some people are to the scientific method and how real research works on ATS.

This does not "confirm" the results a controlled study with thousands of participants conducted in laboratory conditions under the supervision of sleep experts and then published in a respected academic journal would confirm the results.

Not you and your wife

I don't sleep good most nights...well actually I barely get more than 2 hours. But if I thought someone was going to be creeping around my house fiddling with my electrics ....I would be awake all night!
just saying

originally posted by: dashen
i can confirm these results. i turned off the wifi random nights and my wife had similar results

Well, you should alert the Mayo clinic! Publish it, lol.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

A single person study could demonstrate strong evidence for the phenomenon but as you say, "controlled" is the operative word, here. All I'm reading in this thread is a bunch of unscientific tests clearly open to all sorts of bias. Data is not the plural of anecdote.

Ok so here is a link to the other thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

If I could do this is controlled environment.

We were discussing in the other thread that Radio wave lengths and frequencies, electric waves from our electric wiring, cell phones, WiFi, UHF, AM and FM signals on how they are passing by us and through us everyday for many years.

Now how does the body react to this?

We are not really sure but I have a feeling much like when you are exposed to loud sound waves from machinery or loud music. The body reacts to Extreme sound waves over 7dB by producing from the brain a chemical called endorphine. After 30 minutes of you body producing this you can become sleepy. this was discovered in studies on manufacturing companies funded by insurance companies to find out why so many accidents after 45 minutes into the day was the highest rate of industrial accidents.

Now what I am about to suggest is conjecture and there is not real study out there yet. Lets say your body is bombarded by electric waves from wiring, telephones, low level frequencies from different sources 24/7. I believe your body begins to becomes stressed after a while and begins to manufacture chemicals to counter act the constant bombardment but at very low levels. But your body never gets a break from them after many years you begin to have things happening to you that have no explanation. Like Ringing ears with no physical cause, strange sleep patterns, wild dreams or no dreams and even allergic symptoms that have no real cause.

I propose that these things are happening because of our bodies chemicals secretions over a long period of time. Like the girl who believed she was having allergy WiFi but she wasn't allergic to WiFi but the chemicals her body produced to protect itself from the stress of all the different wave lengths signals and such bombarding each of us every day.

Well anyway, If I could get a grant and some medical staff to study people taking blood samples to determine what types of chemicals are being produced and how people react to an environments free of all these waves and frequencies and stuff it may prove to be enlightening.

Anyway it was just because I wanted to see if WiFi does affect peoples sleep I asked some friends to participate. I know it really doesn't prove anything but I know there is an affect on our bodies.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

i can confirm we slept better.
thats what confirm means.
I didnt do a double blind anything, nor did i claim to.
now you try and make the test group bigger homie,

a reply to: Kali74

They had no Idea I was turning off the wifi at night only and it was for two weeks. I figured if they knew it would skew the results.

and theres this.....

Effect of extremely low frequency electromagnetic field exposure on sleep quality in high voltage substations

which says no observable effect,

but this article that suggests a connection

a reply to: ChesterJohn

And you don't see how that's wrong?

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
ye of little faith. It did take place with the permission of the subjects and the only thing they did not know was I was turning off the Wifi router at night.

It was done in their home and I tried to keep it simple.

Wifi has never bothered me or anyone I know. I sleep like a baby.

a reply to: reldra

Perhaps I should have elaborated but since I am here using not a computer with mouse and keyboard but My phone it is totally a tedious process to type even all of this.
My Apology is extended forthwit...
The experiment itself I found to be impressive.
However the Subjects used could have been told the entirety of the plan beforehand.
BUT if that were the case, I doubt if the results would have been the same.
You know as the Subjects would have had thoughts of the End Results in Their Minds...
Syx...