posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 07:59 AM
Okay, I have been attacked on a totally unrelated thread, because of this one.
I will answer here, where it is more appropriate.
I am being accused of breaking laws and stealing jobs from younger women.
One - there's no laws broken here. I used the word "traditionally" , and I chose that word carefully. If I had meant "legally" I would have used that
There is no legal boundries on this career choice. There exists vocational courses for people who drop out of high school, in this area, and there are
private home study courses one can buy, which have a diploma or certificate at the end, which is not recognized by the state.
The person I will be replacing (I learned after writing this thread) had no experience or training in this area when she was hired, and a good friend
of mine who has worked for a vet for 14 years had no experience or training when she was hired.
No laws were broken.
Two - the question of taking a job a younger woman (who needs it more) might otherwise have...
- People who need a job to survive often want and need a full time job, not a part time job, as this is.
That made it undesireable for many who came to apply.
- It also means being free to come out on emergency calls in the field at any hour (this is a rural community- it means cows having birthing problems
in the night and such)
which also is not desireable for women who have kids at home they cannot just leave when called.
There is the more valid question of employers in general being more hesitant to hire a female of child bearing age.
The problem is more complex than it seems at first sight, and is apparently one of those things that looks like a problem to outsiders, and
yet, strangely, works in this environment.
The laws (yes, real laws, not cultural traditions) give women three years of maternity leave, with full pay and guarantee to get their job back after
those three years.
This has been the source of many young women whp strive to get a contract, only to get pregnant immediately, then do so again each three years,
getting full pay and not having to work for many many years.
I have known business owners paying three women for the same position, because two of them were on repeated maternity leave. For a small business
owner, this can put them out of business completely!
This does not keep young women from getting hired when they are really capable. My daughter, when she finished college and got her degree, was hired
by a company. As they were drawing up her contract, she found out she was pregnant.
In a gesture very uncommon here, she went to them and told them this, giving them a chance to back out if they wanted to. They had a meeting
and decided to continue on with the contract anyway. She went back to work just three months after giving birth. She had skills that are high in
demand here, and this is not a small business, it is a multinational corporation, so that helped.
But she has girlfriends right now purposely waiting to get pregnant until they get a contract (with no intent on exposing that to the employer).
So... in the past, having seen a previous employer's problem with this, not wanting to discriminate, but being financially unable to support another
maternity leave, I have brought up the issue with french people often.
I was confused as to why no one else seemed concerned. Did they not care that women could be discriminated against???
With time is became clear to me - there are a large number of women who actually want to spend their early adult years (twenties) taking care of their
children at home!
Whether they get paid from a private business,
or from the national social security,
they can do that. Being single or married makes no difference. (part of why a majority of couple in france don't bother to marry, even if they have
lots of kids and live their whole lives together - women don't need a man to survive)
The private company or business that gets "taken in" by the scheming females, it is their own fault, so no one cares.
And this whole thing raises the value of older women in the workplace, even when it comes to experience or education - which is something the younger
women feel is a GOOD thing - because they will one day be one of those older women, after they have done their home nurturing as they wanted to!
This seems inconcevable to women like me who come from the US, where our whole self value and image comes from our career status! When ones value to
the society is determined on that, yeah it could seem like the women are being "taken from".
But after many years, and as I have described on this site a lot, the women here judge themselves more on their status and performance as a mother and
household engineer. The homelife is considered more valuable than work life (hence their famous legal minimum for yearly vacations, 35 hour work
week, two hour lunch where families eat at home together daily...). The home is where the woman has an enormous amount of power and is not undervalued
as in some other western cultures.
So no, I guess the women here are okay with this system, in which they have the option to invest themselves in their child bearing and rearing
completely, then have more options in the exterior world when they are ready. That's simply the way they have chosen to do things, and I've stopped
being the foriegner always bitching about their system.
There is a moment when you have to decide to either adapt or leave. I chose to adapt.