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originally posted by: intrptr
I don't know the breakdown, this is from memory…
The Fed owns half the land in the US, the states another twenty-five percent, corporations another 1o percent, real estate 5 percent, parks and what not a further five, the people less than five percent, less than one percent of the land is up for sale at any time. Something to that effect.
You want to know why real state prices are so high?
Theres no such thing anymore as squatters rights, staking a claim or grub stake, all the land is owned, its all spoken for.
Posted, Keep Out, No Trespassing.
Signs, signs, everywhere the signs…
And if you step foot on that "public land" you pay tax dollars with, they will find you and boot you off at best, or jail you at worst.
Most public lands administered by BLM are open year round to public use. The public can use these lands for recreation unless the lands have been officially closed to fire danger or other emergency hazard.
originally posted by: machineintelligence
a reply to: Punisher75
So which federal agency do you work for, or with? Just curious. I am guessing FBI or maybe BLM. When I say we need to dissolve the BLM I know it is not likely to happen but I can likely make my deals better directly with the tribes. Fewer middle men with bigger corporation ties.
originally posted by: machineintelligence
a reply to: openminded2011
How about these videos as well
The Lost Vikings
First Americans were Black Not Indians
There are as many opinions on this subject as there are races on this planet I think.
originally posted by: Domo1
Appreciate you starting this thread, for those that don't know OP was super classy and realized I had gone off topic replying and started this thread for this discussion!
What happened was a complete travesty, and it's a shameful part of our past. I recognize that the ramifications and systematic mistreatment of Natives throughout the years since is still causing issues in these communities.
That being said, I completely disagree that Native Americans should be given any Federal land. I don't think there is a single people (or person alive today) that hasn't had land rob along with their rights and dignity (if looking at their ancestry). We can't just unseat the entirety of civilization as we know it to right past injustices. It wouldn't be pragmatic, and honestly at this point with all the interbreeding and lack of records flat out impossible.
I would hazard a guess that the majority of people now living in the US are occupying Native land. So should we all give it up because some ancestors are still making claims? This is going to get confusing. What if you're part native, do you get to stay, or do you have to give up all but 1/16th of your land?
Does the amount of time someone or their ancestors have been living in a certain area dictate your percent of ownership? One side of my family is easily traced over to the Mayflower, do I have more rights and privileges than a fresh immigrant? The other side of my family has only been here for 3 or 4 generations, so should I have fewer?
Does the great grandson of a slave owner owe black people a personal apology or reparations?
I truly feel for Native Americans, but I dislike the way they are romanticized on this site and in general. People act like they were content to just roam the plains peacefully and honor nature. There was a lot of war, and they hadn't evolved the same technology yet. Give them a few hundred years more and I'm betting they would have raped the Earth just like the rest of the world that had a few breakthroughs and resources.
Do you honestly think they would be better stewards to the parks if left to their own devices? I really don't. I think everything would be clear cut and all resources gutted with the excuse being "screw the white man" in a short number of years.
I think we need to do more for Native communities, because they are disasters (and it's clearly not all their fault), but we need to be realistic and quit the whole "Native Americans deserve all their land back because 400 years ago it was stolen" narrative.
I'm so looking forward to all the responses from outraged 1/64th Blackfoot Indian members.
I suppose the real solution is to ship everyone back home and leave the Natives be. So I'm going to need a few boxes. I'm Irish, Scottish, English, Belgian, German, and French. I suppose everyone of my pieces will be given a certain amount of acreage, because ancestors.
ETA: I never say this, but S&F. I may disagree with you, but this was an awesome move on your part (making sure we didn't derail) and I liked your OP. It's an interesting topic, and I'm looking forward to seeing people's opinions, even if they're wrong and disagree with me.