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1,000+ Migrants Rape, Rob, and Brawl, At ONE German Train Station On New Year’s Eve.

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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 02:35 AM
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According to a few newssources something like in Cologne happened in Hamburg as well. Groups of young men, seemingly with arab and northern african backgrounds molested and robbed several women on the Reeperbahn.

German source "Die Welt"

German source "Focus online"

German source "Frankfurter Allgemeine"

I guess we will see what comes out of this one, but this might turn really ugly. For those who don't know, the Reeperbahn is Hamburg's red light district as well as what people there call a "Partymeile", meaning there a lots and lots of clubs and bars in that area as well.
Now it's one thing to do such things at a main station, where you don't have to fear many repercussions except a slap on the wrist by some judge because you had a hard childhood or grew up in a culture that thinks it is perfectly okay to treat women like this. However, it's a whole other thing doing it on the Reeperbahn or similar places.
I don't know which groups are in control of the Reeperbahn, but in the city I live in you would be dealing with the Hells Angels, among others... neither of which are known to hold back or be very friendly if you step on their toes.



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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 03:14 AM
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Arseholes are everywhere. Just have to weed them out. On it.



posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 03:30 AM
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Happened not only in Cologne, there are two more cities reported till now.
Bummer that not of those groups ran in our NYE HipHop Party, they would have kicked the # out of their asses, from the most multicultural crowd you have ever seen! They would have learned, even by "their own" people that are with us, how one has to act in Cologne, would have learned it by the hard way.

Heared a witness, a victim right now on german TV. She said that those people(she met) weren´t aggressive in the first way, they have been drunk and were testing out how far they can go. They surrounded and touched the girl too, she became angry and wanted to hit the guy in front of her. She reported that when she raised her hand, the guy in front of her was really shocked, twitched back in fear of her, and the whole crowd around her was shocked and left her alone.

So they knew that one can do almost everything in germany and the normal german "Otto Normalverbraucher" wouldn´t defend himself, can´t defend himself, never learned it. And even the police here is laughable, a crowd of around 1000 marocs, algerians and middle eastern wimps go postal in front of the cologne main railway station, only several meters besides the Cologne Cathedral, and the police says that they heared of those events not until the next day, when victims informed police. How can that be??? If you wear a hoodie and sneakers and run into the railstation a normal day, police will check you, happened more than enough to myself.
But on NYE??? Or did they have to act blind, because of political correctness? Even that possibility i heared on TV right now!

If the majority of my fellow german citizens wouldn´t be such wimps that they sadly actually are, nobody ever would start such events. But maybe they learn now that if you need help, are in danger, nobody here would help you, at least the police. Maybe my fellow citizen learn to defend themselves now, maybe they learn to act as mature people now.

As sad as it is, we, the civilized humans, are only animals. Some are more, some are less. We flock together in crowds and invade the territory of other humans, to test our supremacy, our powers. We irritate other humans only to test how far we can go, how the defense of the others is. If we see that there is no defense, that they are weak wimps, we can go ahead and show our "supremacy". Now we rule them and can do with them whatever we want, course the others won´t or can´t defend themselves.

And that happened in Cologne and the other two cities(Hamburg, Stuttgart) on NYE. Some animals in crowds tested out other animals in crowds. The difference between both groups of animals is that the one group, the attacking one, had cohesion. The problem of the other group, the germans, is that they are all egoists. If there are nine "bio"-germans and one migrant-german passing the same event, lets say a fight without weapons, and the loser on the floor gets beaten on and on, guess who would help the loser/victim (btw, i am seeing myself as a bio-german, even as a halfcast)?
Thasts because most germans think first about what all could happen to themselves before helping others. Then they hit the road, doing as they never saw something, because the risk is too high. Sad as it is, but it is reality.

Knowing that, it is easy to act like those attacking wimps in crowds on NYE, like a game, nothing else. Seems that germans are less animals than others, but they unlearned the wrong things.
Maybe because they are trained so, by the rulers, to be dependent on government, police etc. Not more able to defend themselves, thinking the world isn´t anymore ruled by the rules of the jungle. But still the big animals eat the small ones, if the small ones can´t defend themselves. That´s still how it is. So it´s not the best thing to unlearn to defend yourself, to stand together as citizens of the same city and to fight the attackers. Being dependent on, for example, a police that wouldn´t help you, because it is helpless, or has to act like they act, because of political correctness, by orders from "above".

I guess, if a group of those wimps had tried to attack some of our ladies, that would have been the last time they tried something like this on others, for the rest of theior lifes. No. i am sure!
Almost a bummer that it didn´t happen, that we couldn´t teach them a lesson!
It seems that we are more animals than other germans, but hey, we are proud to be no wimps!
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Edit: Live on TV officials now scream for more video-surveillance. So "maybe" know we know why police saw and heared nothing, while everything was happening in front of their nose, all around them. Even a female undercover cop was touched that night, but police knew not until the next day of this events? Maybe the next time we learn here in germany that some of those attackers were "V-Männer", under instruction of the security authorities like the Verfassungsschutz!
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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 03:45 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

I guess it's the "civilising" influence of modern education. Much of the UK is like it too.
I met a few Germans at various bike rallies and they weren't the sort to wimp out of anything



posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 04:45 AM
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originally posted by: [post=20224289]SprocketUK[


Sure we have some "evil" germans too, that are not that civilized as maybe wished by the rulers.
But it´s the majority that is too civilized, like it seems...


And depending on the news now, about the reflex of the officials to scream for more surveillance of all german citizens when

anything

happened, maybe we have to see those events in another light. Even if everyone knows that mass surveillance never helped to prevent any crimes or terror attacks, it doesn´t matter what happened, officials want it, need it, surely only for our security. And the most time they get what they ordered!

Just look at the last two "terror warnings" in germany, one caused the cancellation of a national teams soccer match and feramongering, and the last one in Munich caused nothing else than fearmongering. Everytime i hear of a terror warning in germany, i bet with people. On NYE i bet with my mom that no terror attack will happen in Munich, and that at the end of the story will be nothing more than hot air, fearmongering. I even could tell here live at the phone, when she saw this on tv and told me about the warning in Munich live, that later they will say the warnings came from a friendly secret service, that nobody will be arrested and nothing will be raided and searched. As it happened in Hannover with the soccer match terror warning. And it came as i told her.

Sure no problem, because everytime the same script is used by the fearmongerers, it´s laughable. They only want to fear the citizens, so that they won´t protest when more surveillance will be installed, to spy on all of us. So they even are thankfull for the "security"...


Or look at the NSU-Terrorists and the links to the Verfassungsschutz, a german secret service, all the "mistakes" that were made, by police, by agencies etc, the victims became suspects because they were not "bio"-german or german, so they had to be be criminals, for years. "Accidentally" shred files and "lost" exhibits, caught and let loose terrorists, "V-Männer", people paid by the Verfassungsschutz everywhere, even at a murder scene while the murder happpened(but he mentioned nothing, heared no shots 3m away, didn´t see the body of the victim while leaving the internet cafe)... Too much "coincidences" to write them down here.

So these "security" agencies have been involved in almost every terror attack that happened here in germany, except some of the RAF attacks maybe, they have been cought "inflagranti" staging attacks, at an event called the Celler Loch.

Now it is not hard to believe that some of the "leaders" of those 1000 men group in Cologne are "V-Männer". Heared the police director of cologne on TV before an hour, he said:"Why do people accept such security tools like video surveillance only after something happened?" For me this sounds like something "must" happen in germany, but maybe they were to afraid to stage a bombing, to afraid to have more victims than some touched and robbed women and some beaten wimps.

So, now "something" happened, right under the eyes of the police, at one of the areas which is most frequented by "security" authorities, right in the heart of cologne.

IF

those authorities are so aware because of eminent terror threats, as they tell us the whole time, why didnt they see and hear anything, even while a female cop was touched? When a group of 1000 men can flock together, going postal? 1000 men they tell us everyday are possible terror suspects, depending on their origin, their look(Black hairs, arab or middle eastern look) Smells like...not teen spirit


And actually authorities demand more police, better trained armed police, more video surveillance, the whole package again. I am sorry, maybe too much internets
, but that smells like something that authorities at least had let happen what happened on NYE. To have a reason to demand more BigBrother, more Police State, as all that is raising in the western, civilzed nations, look at France!

I could bet that something is wrong with those events on NYE, and if i bet on something like this, i win in the most cases, almost all of them, if "terror", "staged events" or similiar is involved

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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 05:14 AM
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I bet Angela Merkel is beginning to rue the day she made the worst political decision of her career. Its her head on the block for allowing so many into her country without proper checks. Its her job to protect her citizens which she clearly is failing on.

In the UK recently it was reported that the numbers of immigrants getting work was well under 50% so we have the rest plus their families - often large and extended to pay for. No one asked for this behaviour and clearly integrating these people is not for the faint hearted.

Today we are starting to live in fear in our countries courtesy of uncontrolled immigration, some over a long period of time. Its not acceptable and we should not be contemplating allowing it to continue or those who are clearly incompatible with Western values to remain here.

It is fair to say that we have enough of our own rapists and criminals to deal with without importing any more.
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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 06:03 AM
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The Middle East isn't the way it is despite the people living there... It's BECAUSE of the people living there.

I'm all for allowing working class families and those seeking education to immigrate and integrate into western society. But the problem that amnesty supporters don't realize, or flat out ignore, is the fact that many of these immigrants who come into western countries unchecked and without any sort vetting are from a vastly different way of life and way of thinking, still following an unreformed code of conduct and laws from 1400 years ago.

It's ironic because the PC crowd likes to shame people who are against mass immigration by saying that they are "on the wrong side of history"... but they don't seem to apply this label when it comes to the laws of Islam.
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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 06:09 AM
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@ Shiloh7

I am afraid that the majority of those marocs and algerians weren´t actual refugees. I guess refugees would be to afraid to be send back to elsewhere. I guess most of them were members of some families that live for a long time, maybe generations here in germany and all over europe. Which know how europe and especially germany works.

Have you ever been on a muslim wedding? I have(and it was very nice!!!), the family members come from all over europe, you can see at the number plates where they come from. And it´s not rarely that there are more than 1000 persons on such a wedding.

Don´t really think this all have been refugees, some of them maybe, i am afraid this were normal criminals living here in europe/germany for a long time. This guys started to do their drug business around cologne old city long before the refugee crisis started.

As a fresh arrived refugee i wouldn´t do such things, maybe not because i am that nice, but maybe because i can think about what could happen to me, if i want to stay here, in freedom.



posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: Rocker2013

They were of the same ethnicity and religon though.They weren't classed as immigrants because they have already recieved citizenship no douvt due to being in the country for so long.
Whether this particular article points that out i don't know.



I do wish you people would learn some critical thinking.


Start doing that yourself.
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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 06:59 AM
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a reply to: Shiloh7

I don't think, Angela Merkel will regret any of it, ever. She is doing her job exceptionally well and is worth all the money she gets... although I doubt her actual job is what most people think it is.

She is a globalist through and through, is more than happy to force the German people to accept mass surveilance (for security of course!), genetic engineered food, trade agreements like TTIP and sell them out in pretty much any other way possible. Much like Kohl, her dream is a united Europe without nations, and the best way to do away with a nation is to flood a country with foreigners.

Once she retires she will have a nice life as a directorate for a few big banks and maybe give a speech here and there for 100.000 bucks each.
Nope, nothing to regret at all.



posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 06:59 AM
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a reply to: Viking9019

They have not one of those guys arrested, but you already know, they were of one and the "same ethnicity and religion".

A young woman just told how she was touched by some guys and helped herself with courage, while the police pushed her away and told her to move on. These kinds of stories make me angry.



posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 07:36 AM
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originally posted by: Rocker2013
a reply to: SergeantSmoke

Did any of you actually read the German report this is from?
That one is from a right wing German news source, and even then it's VASTLY different from the exaggerate nonsense Briebart reports - but never let actual reality get in the way of far right propaganda!

Briebart mixes reports from ACROSS THE CITY with the accusation that this was all "dirty, terrorist, migrants".

In reality, these numbers were from across Cologne, from various groups of people of all kinds of backgrounds. And why is this? Because the Cologne police are apathetic to doing their jobs regarding anything happening on NYE, and they have been that way for a while.

Now, if you all want to go back through and ACTUALLY READ the bs you're swallowing before you go off on your extremist rants, you'll find that there are unsubstantiated statements made by random women (not police reports) of being attacked, while the Police have actually accepted 35 reports FROM ACROSS THE CITY, of attacks in general - not by immigrants.

The scary 1,000 people are across Cologne, nothing to do with the train station and nothing to do with the immigrants you want to blame.

I do wish you people would learn some critical thinking.

Then again, actually scrutinizing the bs your far right propagandists want you to believe doesn't suit you. You don't actually want to read the truth, you just want the propaganda to reinforce your already ignorant views.


I think it's a tad dishonest to claim that the right is a bunch of propagandists. Look more to the left for that...
To address the topic, are you saying that these immigrants across Europe and into North America aren't actually doing these things?

EDIT...I should have read further before responding. It seems several other members already called you for your BS. Question is...do you have the cajones to respond, or was this a drive-by bs'ing? I don't understand why you make this left vs. right. It's not. Let's be honest and call it what it is: us vs. them. The left only wants "them" because "they" tend to vote left. That will haunt the left one day. Those on the right that see what really is going on are called racists and bigots and all other kinds of names, and that's sad, but the truth is this:

There is darkness hiding amongst these immigrants, and that darkness wants to destroy many of the things that I believe in, that my ancestors believed in, and that western cultures are built on. If calling a spade a spade makes me a racist or a bigot, then call me a racist and a bigot, because I won't be dishonest about reality just to prevent people from calling me names and I won't turn a blind eye to darkness just because it hides behind the light.

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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 07:40 AM
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It has now made to other mainstream news outlets. BBC NEWS.

Just waiting for all the EDF and Britain 1st spam to start littering up Facebook now

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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: Nyiah
I know that you don't care what I do. And I know that because you know two people that have been raped that you think you know all that you need to know about rape and sexual assault. That is one of the biggest obstacles in my job. Everyone "thinks" they know what constitutes a rape, and who is at fault, including the victim and the perpetrator.

The victim often feels she was at fault, or that she was stupid, or she is in a state of shock or denial. The perpetrators often think they were entitled, or that the victim was asking for it, or deserved it.

I am not going to bother with trying to educate you on what is the truth about the ugly crime of rape. Just keep in mind that no two people are the same. How a person is affected and how they respond can be as different as night and day. It does not change the fact that the crimes of sexual assault and rape are never the fault of the victim. That is hard for a lot of people to understand and believe. That is why our newest educational campaign is, " Start With Believing."

Sexual assault and rape are both a crime. As far as the legal definitions are concerned I am sure there is very little difference in what constitutes a sexual assault in the US and in other countries, unfortunately, the mind set and the knowledge level of these heinous crimes remain just as equal on both sides of the pond.

As far as what happened regarding this thread is concerned, I think #dollukka explained if well.

I don't need to chew on your two experiences of knowing two people in two decades. I chew on dealing with 1 to 6 victims a day, and that is just in my tiny little area.

It just makes my job so much harder, and makes the crimes of sexual assault and rape a never ending battle, when people are so willing to remain woefully ignorant of one the most heinous, and most frequent crime committed in our societies.

How we view this crime speaks volumes of who we are, and how we devalue the lives of women and children.

Men get raped and sexually assaulted as well. In much smaller numbers we think, since sexual assaults of children and men are greatly under reported.

I have heard the point blank reasoning of victims and perpetrators. No ones experience in more valid or less valid than any others. Everyone recovers in different ways and over different spans of time. It is unfortunate that your few encounters with rape victims have clouded your vision, and that you feel you have the right to pass judgment on rape victims everywhere. You are doing yourself and victims everywhere a great disservice.

It is a horribly disgusting topic, and I understand why so many people don't want to even think about it, but until enough people are educated to the facts, this crime that has been with us since the dawn of man, will only get worse.



posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: Rocker2013
a reply to: SergeantSmoke

Did any of you actually read the German report this is from?
That one is from a right wing German news source, and even then it's VASTLY different from the exaggerate nonsense Briebart reports - but never let actual reality get in the way of far right propaganda!

Briebart mixes reports from ACROSS THE CITY with the accusation that this was all "dirty, terrorist, migrants".

In reality, these numbers were from across Cologne, from various groups of people of all kinds of backgrounds. And why is this? Because the Cologne police are apathetic to doing their jobs regarding anything happening on NYE, and they have been that way for a while.

Now, if you all want to go back through and ACTUALLY READ the bs you're swallowing before you go off on your extremist rants, you'll find that there are unsubstantiated statements made by random women (not police reports) of being attacked, while the Police have actually accepted 35 reports FROM ACROSS THE CITY, of attacks in general - not by immigrants.

The scary 1,000 people are across Cologne, nothing to do with the train station and nothing to do with the immigrants you want to blame.

I do wish you people would learn some critical thinking.

Then again, actually scrutinizing the bs your far right propagandists want you to believe doesn't suit you. You don't actually want to read the truth, you just want the propaganda to reinforce your already ignorant views.




Quoted for truth. Because no doubt the xenophobes will skip the logic.



originally posted by: ShayneJUK
a reply to: Punisher75

remember in their version of the Muslim world rape as we understand it does not exist
females are little more than property with little or no rights and NON Muslim females
have no status at all and are fair game in their minds remember they really do think and believe
very differently to most western people.

this is not to be little them in any way its how they are educated.



Hang on, the perpetrators are muslim are they? Can you outline exactly where in the news articles it states the offenders faith?
You talk like you think you know what the muslim world is about, yet you don't even know that drinking alcohol is forbidden by islam. Which brings me to another point. I invite anyone to point out the 1000 intoxicated men that are shown in the video? At any point in the video there are no more than 500, perhaps barely 600 people shown.




originally posted by: SergeantSmoke
All I can say is wow....


City police chief Wolfgang Albers said the crowd was composed of up to 1,000 heavily intoxicated men who gave the appearance of being "Arab or North African" in background.





How about you OP?




In addition to the sex attacks, there were several brawls between migrant gangs at the railway station, and large numbers of fireworks were fired into the crowds and at the hapless police. A witness said: “There were thousands of men. Simply firing into the crowd, and as my girlfriend and I wanted to get us to safety, but they blocked our way. We were so scared! We fled from the station”.



Where are the thousands of men described by a "witness"?





“We then walked through this group of men. There was an alley through [the men] which we walked through. Suddenly I felt a hand on my buttocks, then on my breasts, in the end, I was groped everywhere. It was a nightmare. Although we shouted and beat them, the guys did not stop. I was desperate and think I was touched around 100 times in the 200 meters.




Where is the 200 meter long corridor of men described by this other witness?



posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 09:10 AM
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This is pathetic. The fact that you can't see it doesn't mean the witness statement is false. It also doesn't mean it's true. But you're standing on a pulpit acting better than everyone else because you can't see something. There's a billion things in this world that I've never seen that I know are real. This may indeed be another one. Besides...why are you defending this? You act as if Muslims, who are not to drink alcohol, always adhere to that rule.

Some people in here may be painting with a certain brush, but you're whitewashing the whole thing and turning a blind eye defending it with no reason to.

Also...did you count the people in the video? Give me a break...You'll do anything to defend these people won't you...Even ignore the other sources posted by several members contradicting your quote. So, you "quote for truth" and you're completely dishonest. At the very least, there is a chance that the OP and other sources are incorrect, but as it stands right now, several sources confirm the OP, and none contradict it.

I don't even understand why people like you talk...You'd defend anybody and anything as long as someone on the right is against it.
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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 09:21 AM
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My dear ATS friends...

Can you please analyse the way you are beginning to talk about migrants. It's worrying. The whole first page of this thread is full of racist and, quite frankly, barbaric commentary. I completely understand the emotional response an article like this would conjure - but please hear me out for a second.

This migrant rhetoric is starting to make ME, a Westerner, uncomfortable. I was born in Bosnia to mixed Christian and Islamic heritage and moved to England at the age of 4 (to escape a genocide). I have felt British my whole life.

However, recently, this migrant rhetoric is echoing notions of fascism. There is an idea floating about that your place of birth and subsequent genetic heritage has a strong bearing on your ability to be a rapist or a murderer. We are not even considering socioeconomic factors any more.

To many of you, this is not done purposely - but subconsciously. However, the clever fascists will use Islam as a religion (I'm not religious) to justify why they believe a quarter of the world are natural born rapists and murderers. These same people do not know or wish to not know that both the Old and New Testaments allow the same mistreatment as the Quran. If we want to campaign against religion - it's time to campaign against it all - because after IS will just be another group using a text to justify their evil (Hitler did it with Jews). It's not going to end with Islam.

The problem is, this rhetoric does nothing to help the problem other than divide us even more. Like I've said, I'm starting to feel really uncomfortable about how migrants are spoken of as natural rapists and murderers, considering that I started as a migrant, as did my family in the UK. Is this how people view us? Because my skin is slightly darker than yours I am more likely to rape you? This is all so sad...

I don't know what the solution is now beyond even more death. Some of you won't rest with this now until you see every Muslim tortured and murdered for the sins of their brothers. I am genuinely scared for all the good Muslims of the world - and I am even more scared for those of you who claim that there exist no good Muslims.

Of course - someone's going to reply to me saying "what do you do about the 10,000s entering our countries then?". That's a question for the government, but I'm sure the answer isn't to paint migrants as subhuman - which is happening on an increasing level by surprisingly intelligent people.

Sigh. We really are nothing but a playground for angels and demons. Any time we make some form of progress as a human race we are pushed 100 steps back. The worst thing about this entire situation is that it was provoked by us in the first place. We should have NEVER entered the middle east in the manner we did.

We had a great relationship with the Islamic world post soviet Afghanistan, and our own leaders have violated that friendship knowing very well that the idea of Jihad that WE ignited in Afghanistan would come back to haunt us. Do you know why they didn't care? Because they knew it would be us and our children (the innocent civilians) that would suffer the consequence. This is why our leaders continue to bomb these lands aimlessly while being fully aware that it's triggering the migrant crisis and also supporting IS to recruit and spread anti-Western rhetoric. It's all quite sickening to be honest - from both sides of the camp.

We could clear out IS with ground forces so much more effectively - while keeping a form of stability in the region. However, it seems to have been decided that the lives of innocents lost through our air strikes aren't worth as much as our soldiers - and therefore this whole situation has been allowed to escalate to a level that is genuinely a threat to the stability of the entire world.

While our governments continue to be incompetent at fighting IS in a productive manner, the burden of hatred and anger is thrown onto the backs of those who are trying to flee these hell zones. It's all so messed up. I guess the solution is for humanity to become robot like. We are not allowed free will - we cannot do good with it in the long run. Even those who try have their ideas and creations perverted for other's malicious gain.


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posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 09:25 AM
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What did mad merkal expect when she opened the flood gates....

UK needs out of the EU ASAP!




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