Originally posted by ADVISOR

I don't think it matters who builds it! It shows that much is going to change, it's so obvious that most people are blind to it...The rebuilding of the temple isn't what bothers me. It's what happens after it's finished, that starts to get to me.

Just a thought. But does the rebuilding of King Solomon's temple actually allude to a physical building?

Or could it be the reshaping of Jerusalem as is going to occur in any peace?

I haven't seen any patterns to confirm this yet, but it might be worth bearing in mind that something that was written thousands of years ago might have the same meaning yet take a different form in today's climate.

hamas to me is not the terrorist or what so ever of it kind,but to how they are develop into what now a day is called terrorist is because the israel goverment it self.
where they want to conquering all the palestine land
for their on purpose that a really bull@$#$.even if the jews have to return to that land it doesnt mean they can kill all the arab,just do whatever you like we herein EUROPE and US has nothing to do with it !is that what the most western people agree to what the israel goverment did
to this arabjust do it whatever endeed

I still don't get why the UN listens to the middle east. The UN designated the land of Jews after WWII. Yet then they go ok middle east, go ahead and wipe them out, we won't defend them. But Isreal kicks @$$, wins land. So now middle east complain about the fact that Isreal has that land. They lost it in a war!(several anyways) SHould Mexico be allowed to blow up US civillians because we won Lower Western States in a war with them? No, and if they did, we would bomb the heck out of them. Yet in middle east, it ok.

As said, let Isreal lose. In fact, give them money and stuff, get on their good side. That way when Isreal wins all of the middle east, they will be willing to sell oil cheap to the people who supported them. Just an idea.

Originally posted by Leveller
Just a thought. But does the rebuilding of King Solomon's temple actually allude to a physical building?

Or could it be the reshaping of Jerusalem as is going to occur in any peace?

I haven't seen any patterns to confirm this yet, but it might be worth bearing in mind that something that was written thousands of years ago might have the same meaning yet take a different form in today's climate.

I looked into what you said, as it reminded me a a passage in the bible(NIV). It is speaking about Jerusalem, as stated in 21:10

Revelation 22:22
I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

So what you said makes alot of sence, it's just if the bible is to be taken seriously, then the proverbial $h!t is going to obliterate the fan. And that is what truly unnerves me.

[Edited on 15-6-2003 by ADVISOR]

James, Israel punishes the whole population of palestine for what a few militants do. It seems you see these strikes as targeting terrorist but the reality is that they kill innocents in the process. They call them pre-emptive assassinations but they rarely are assasinations; more like mass kills and destruction of property making it impossible for palestinians that don't support terror and are not part of Hamas and Islamic Jihad to live normal lives. Both groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad are pretty small networks.

I don't think the UN supports the terror groups. That would be like saying the Bush administration supports the terror groups because they support a free independant palestine, the end to settlements in the West Bank, and an end to overall occupation. They support innocent palestinians right to exist. The fact of the matter is palestine cannot be assimilated into Israel. No matter who won what land in what war there has to be a compromise and there has to be a palestine at the end of that compromise or terror will continue.

isreal did not start that war in 67. they were invaded by by a-rab countries. more power to isreal in their hunt to destroy hamas. im suprised the IDF has waited this long to go after them. they should roll over them. but the a-rabs fight like cowards so it might take a while. eventual outcome though is in Isreal's favor.

Originally posted by ADVISOR

Originally posted by Leveller
Just a thought. But does the rebuilding of King Solomon's temple actually allude to a physical building?

Or could it be the reshaping of Jerusalem as is going to occur in any peace?

I haven't seen any patterns to confirm this yet, but it might be worth bearing in mind that something that was written thousands of years ago might have the same meaning yet take a different form in today's climate.

I looked into what you said, as it reminded me a a passage in the bible(NIV). It is speaking about Jerusalem, as stated in 21:10

Revelation 22:22
I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

So what you said makes alot of sence, it's just if the bible is to be taken seriously, then the proverbial $h!t is going to obliterate the fan. And that is what truly unnerves me.

[Edited on 15-6-2003 by ADVISOR]

..the bible may be taken literaly here in reference to the killing of the(spotless) red hefer and the ultimate rebuilding of the Temple. This will usher in the reign of the son of perdition, (Anti-Christ) as he will seat himself upon its throne and demand (make) people worship his image as God....and so it goes.

As to the original post, Hamas will not stop and Israel will not stop existing. It is a sad state.

The real Q is, who can defeat the madness?
These people are fighting over history. And history repeats itself over and over...

Originally posted by ultra_phoenix
FINALLY !!!

I was wondering why they were still waiting. If they wipe out these fanatics who have only one goal ( always beeing in war with Israel ), may be it'll be possible to set up peace.

Hamas= terrorists.
No more Hamas = peace for the both parts.

JAJAJAJAJAJA
Do u really think that all these hate, terrorists, and acts, comes all from hamas???
LoL, u should have a talk with some palestininan that lives here in europe in exile because he left his country because of the jews, the ones u defend so much and u see them as victims are the ones feeding terrorists with money and reasons, and using them for "lie to population", or MR UP give a reason for why israel is 20x bigger than what it was in 1965? Is that because of hamas? can u please wake up and talk with sense and not with NAZIonalist mind?
thx

Wouldnt it be rather difficult to wipe out Hamas? arent they all over the Arab world, just like Al Queda?

Cold why don't you think before you talk like a fucking idiot. Stop with the statements like "because of the jews, the ones u defend so much"

Get a god damn education and learn the difference between jews and israelis. It's really offensive already. I'm surprised the moderators haven't put a stop to this yet.