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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: spirit_horse
I disagree with not teaching kids about the religion.
Ok, I want you to notice what you typed. "about the religion."
I think kids should be taught "about ALL religions," but not until they are at least 10 years old......and when they turn ten, they learn about all of them.
Both the White House and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who was also present at the meeting, denies that Bush ever made such a statement.
I think parents should refrain from teaching their children about religion until they are teens. Parents basically brainwash their children into a belief system. They then grow up to be adults with "God" engrained in their brain. It took me a little while to really start questioning "God" because it was engrained as truth since i was a child. I cant imagine what it is like to be born into a evangelical family.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
im sorry, how is secular humanism a religion? secular means without religion and humanism places man above theological figures.
Definition of Religion – Is Humanism Really a Religion? The key question is why doesn’t the current definition of religion and secularism include belief systems that do not believe in a God or supernatural things? According to some dictionaries, the U.S. Supreme Court, and many humanists themselves, religion is not limited to belief systems that believe in a God. Any non-supernatural belief system is equally religious and should be treated identically to religions that believe in a God.
In the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, the U.S. Supreme Court held that Secular Humanism is a religion. Secular humanist John Dewey described Humanism as our "common faith." Julian Huxley called it "Religion without Revelation." The first Humanist Manifesto spoke openly of humanism as a religion. In fact, claiming that humanism was "the new religion" was trendy for at least 100 years. Consequently, the Secular Humanist religion that is taught in our public schools and supported by our tax dollars should have the same constitutional “Establishment Clause” restrictions that the ACLU and the court system seems to be requiring of the Christian religion.
The original signers of the first Humanist Manifesto of 1933, declared themselves to be religious humanists. Because, in their view, traditional religions were failing to meet the needs of their day, the signers of 1933 declared it a necessity to establish a religion that was a dynamic force to meet the needs of the day. However, this "religion" did not profess a belief in any god. Since then two additional Manifestos were written to replace the first. In the Preface of Humanist Manifesto II, in 1973, the authors Paul Kurtz and Edwin H. Wilson assert that faith and knowledge are required for a hopeful vision for the future. Manifesto II references a section on Religion and states traditional religion renders a disservice to humanity. Manifesto II recognizes the following groups to be part of their naturalistic philosophy: "scientific", "ethical", "democratic", "religious", and "Marxist" humanism.
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: Prezbo369
But what is truth?
A fact or belief that is accepted as true.
Fact - a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true.
It is all accepted opinion, until someone comes along and convinces us otherwise.
George W Bush never denied it. Silence is often an admission of guilt.
I'd be more than happy to point you to all of the evidence that his entire presidency was "guided" by his faith in God....
As you can see, the White House, which was George Bush, did in fact deny this silly allegation.
This thread has shown me the exact purpose of some who use these forums to build their own ideology besides religion and cause others to be misinformed.
You can be conviced until the cows come home, but without evidence its just hot air and wasted energy.