Originally posted by dbates
Am I to believe that the Universe just appeared out of nowhere?? *poof*
I don't see how this is a logical thought to follow. If you can prove that you can create something from nothing, and show us how it's done then
I'll consider your point of view.
We live on a planet that is in perfect orbit around just the right star. Our planet also has an excessively large satellite (the moon) in orbit that
is about 1/3 it's size yet they both are able to stay balanced in a beautiful dance. Another interesting point is the large planets that also happen
to be in orbit around this same star which shield the Earth by sucking in erratic objects that could possible threaten our planet. (i.e.
Shoemaker-Levy comet)
We're talking about enormous rocks placed in space with precision that we couldn't come close to even if we tried for millions of years. There's no
evolution involved here. Nothing to grow smarter and learn how to orbit. Nothing that could have chosen a better location to live in. Can't you see
that these things were placed there, or do you really believe that it's all a big accident?
Interesting stuff, which I have thought of myself. But does that, to you, prove an existence of a GOD?
I'd say if it says anything, it would be that there was certainly an element of thought, or design put into our place in the universe. Does that mean
that a god did it? Or does that mean that something so much more advanced than us did it, and we'd believe them to be gods if ever we met?
I don't know about the original poster, but I can honestly say- that I can't honestly say God exists or ETIs exist, just like I can't honestly say
God is fake or ETI is fake.
There is no answer to either, is there? Why should one believe either of those theories prima fascia?
Is that faith; or is that gullibility?
I understand that line of thinking (I've used above) can be used on all sorts of things, including the very nature of our reality. Does that make it
a moot point? Why should any man/woman of independent mind choose to ignore the answer that "there is no answer", currently at least?
Isn't it a much greater disservice to a person's self to accept anything without knowing through research or experience that it is indeed a form of
truth?
Notice I said "a form of truth", as no one thought ever holds full truth. Truth is much more complicated than that.
But then, my previous statement goes against the bible doesn't it? "The faith of a child." It says. But I say the truth is a complex fiber.
No, see the "Faith of a child" statement is in regards to belief, not truth. Once a person has brought multiple strands of truth together, even the
simplest "child" can see them and accept them, if they choose to.
But ease of belief is not the same as ease of discerning the "truth".
The entity that is known as "Satan" is said to be a "Grand Deceiver", so it's made rather clear that one must think and ponder the truth of all
things, and that if you relish in belief only, you are susceptible to deception.
Well, that wound up slightly circular, I'm sorry about that, but I wanted to say as much as I could in the shortest, clearest method, even though my
words look drawn-out, it's short compared to what it should be. Alas, that's my opinion, and I'm not trying to shape anyone's view, I'm just
showing a look from mine.
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