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originally posted by: freemanwalking
a reply to: Xcathdra
Entrapment is where a person acting under the collar of law gets a person to do something they would not ordinarily do. Its not illegal to associate with groups that dont like the US government nor is it against the law to bear arms so im still not sure how this is the government faking something to identify these militiamen.
Would you call it entrapment if there is video evidence of an agent of the federal government helping to plan this cluster?
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: liveandlearn
Man that's some BS. Why is the gov't so hell bent on sending them to prison?
originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: sdcigarpig
Agreed. I predict a bad ending. They have (who knows) how much manpower,weaponry and ammo. If they've been planning this for a long time, they should be well stocked.
FBI has just joined the game. It will be sloppy & ugly.
originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: Rocker2013
The thing people keep forgetting, they ILLEGALLY poached. Tried to cover... they got themselves I to this mess and it's getting messier by the minute
MR. MATASAR: ... Steven Hammond has some criminal history issues, which I will just ask the court to make a specific finding. We have argued in the memo about the Fish & Wildlife exception to the -- to one of his convictions.
THE COURT: Had you ever heard of a landowner's permit before this case?
MR. MATASAR: I had not, but obviously you have.
THE COURT: Any of the lawyers ever killed an animal on a landowner's permit?
MR. MATASAR: I have not.
THE COURT: Your judge has.
MR. MATASAR: Yes. And as I found as I was looking into the landowner permit rules, everybody else knows about them before I did. So it's quite common, as you know, Your Honor.
THE COURT: It's not common in big cities.
MR. MATASAR: Yes. It's not
originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: Punisher75
My bad. I thought I had a scource on them illegally poaching. I'll continue to search.
theconservativetreehouse.com... -hammond-family-persecution/
originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: Rocker2013
The thing people keep forgetting, they ILLEGALLY poached. Tried to cover... they got themselves I to this mess and it's getting messier by the minute
Just found this link. It actually looks like a set of deer antlers still attached to a skull by the fire. Looking g at this, they sure don't look well enough clad to be there for years...lol
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The CNN version: www.cnn.com...
My bet is that the Hammonds really don't want any part of this and the Feds will isolate the occupiers and wait them out. It doesn't appear that such a small building will hold many people and unless they have a large food supply, they won't be able to hold out for long. Isolation and the realization that this is a no-win situation will likely result in most going home, especially when they realize they are being used as pawns by Nevada ranchers with an agenda.
Your bet about the Hammonds would seem to be correct:
My bet is that the Hammonds really don't want any part of this and the Feds will isolate the occupiers and wait them out.
However, the Hammond family, the Oregon ranchers at the center of the dispute, say they don't want them there, reports CBS affiliate KOIN in Portland, Ore.