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2,986 Shooting Victims in Gun-Controlled Chicago During 2015

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posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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Massive big government social/economic/political failure in Chicago.

The totals are in for 2015.

Gun shootings close to 3,000 for the year.

The bastion of laws related to gun control have all failed.

The big crime areas seem to be expanding to around 2/3 of the City.

Police are overwhelmed and lately due to exposures, many police might be relaxing the efforts to curb gun violence before it happens.

Some people (according to private sources) are privately thinking the only solution now is a full-blown military expedition.

The big U.S. cities are failing and failing harder and faster.

What's the solution to all this insanity? Education?

Well "Education" in the big cities might be part of the problem.

2,986 Shooting Victims in Gun-Controlled Chicago During 2015

On January 1, the Chicago Tribune reported that the number of shooting victims in gun-controlled Chicago for 2015 was 2,986.

Mind you, Chicago has a “violence tax” that raises the price of every gun and bullet sold at retail, an “assault weapons” ban, limits on the number of gun stores and the locations of those stores, and what the New York Times describes as handgun restrictions that let city leaders “get as close as they could get legally to a ban without a ban.”

The result? According to the Chicago Tribune, there has been nearly 3,000 shooting victims in one year’s time.


some details at the HeyJackass website that tracks Chicago crime




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posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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Gun control does not work, gun control kills.


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posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Naturally, Obama wants to bring this success rate to the rest of the country.
edit on 2-1-2016 by greencmp because: (no reason given)


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posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 07:59 PM
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Sad stats.
Don't expect liberals to pay any attention to them. They'll just make excuses...or ignore them.



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

I'm a liberal and I pay attention.

Now what?



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:04 PM
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I'd be willing to say that this is more about economic issues and education, as the OP indicated, than gun policy.

People that can easily pay the bills and put food on the table are less likely to commit crimes. More guns in the hands of people desperate to get by is not the answer. As we all know, if they wanted a firearm, they could get one anyway.

Chicago has 1.3 million people living in poverty. That is where we need to focus.



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: xuenchen

Naturally, Obama wants to bring this success rate to the rest of the country.


Obama does not create state or local policy in Illinois or Chicago. He also has not tried to implement anything similar nationwide.
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posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
I'd be willing to say that this is more about economic issues and education, as the OP indicated, than gun policy.

People that can easily pay the bills and put food on the table are less likely to commit crimes. More guns in the hands of people desperate to get by is not the answer. As we all know, if they wanted a firearm, they could get one anyway.

Chicago has 1.3 million people living in poverty. That is where we need to focus.





This is true...



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Rahm....whatcha got to say?

Are you not Obama's boy and all?




posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Sad stats.
Don't expect liberals to pay any attention to them. They'll just make excuses...or ignore them.


Let's address the issue. Bring ideas to the table.

Taking low-blows at your political adversaries does not produce results.


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posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:12 PM
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Blaming criminal activity on economic condition is a cop out. How would you explain the criminal acts of big banks and their billion dollar schemes?

Equating this violence with joblessness is just making excuses for the criminals. If you are hungry and need to turn to crime to solve the problem, you steel a loaf of bread, you don't shoot a six year old kid as his car drives by.


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posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Sad stats.
Don't expect liberals to pay any attention to them. They'll just make excuses...or ignore them.


Let's address the issue. Bring ideas to the table.

Taking low-blows at your political adversaries does not produce results.


LOL!!!!


Ummmkayyy!

Can you not see the irony at all?

lol



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: wildb
Gun control does not work, gun control kills.


Are you suggesting that without Chicago's laws there would have been less murders?

That seems a bit ludicrous.

I'd imagine it would be almost 30% higher without.



Not that it's at a good percentage as it is, just sayin'.
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posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel



How would you explain the criminal acts of big banks and their billion dollar schemes?


Greed.

That is quite different than crime of poverty.

The amount of people impoverished in Chicago, only a city, is almost half that of the entire population of the neighboring state of Iowa.

You don't see a problem there? Why would you steal a loaf of bread when you can kill someone for their gold chain, pawn it and feed yourself for a month?

Poverty is the issue.



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
Blaming criminal activity on economic condition is a cop out. How would you explain the criminal acts of big banks and their billion dollar schemes?

Equating this violence with joblessness is just making excuses for the criminals. If you are hungry and need to turn to crime to solve the problem, you steel a loaf of bread, you don't shoot a six year old kid as his car drives by.



You know I have to agree with this as well, I guess it is a bit complicated..



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs



Are you suggesting that without Chicago's laws there would have been less murders?

Yes that have been discussed and proven many times here on ATS.



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Sad stats.
Don't expect liberals to pay any attention to them. They'll just make excuses...or ignore them.


Let's address the issue. Bring ideas to the table.

Taking low-blows at your political adversaries does not produce results.


LOL!!!!


Ummmkayyy!

Can you not see the irony at all?

lol


Are you interested in a solution, or is this just going to be another thread where we play the same ole game of political back and forth? This issue goes beyond politics, but I see that some cannot get past that.



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs



Are you suggesting that without Chicago's laws there would have been less murders?

Yes that have been discussed and proven many times here on ATS.


Proven by whom?



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I am saying historically gun control has killed 100's of millions..



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 08:19 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Sad stats.
Don't expect liberals to pay any attention to them. They'll just make excuses...or ignore them.


Let's address the issue. Bring ideas to the table.

Taking low-blows at your political adversaries does not produce results.


Hypothetically speaking, Conducting a coup' against the MSM might help, since they are extremely liberal controlled and owned, and in the hip pocket of the WH to boot, and even with this, they don't offer any solutions or even suggestions except to suggest doubling down on Chicago style legislation, so after the coup of the MSM, the people could replace all the bias with balance and truth. Then their might be change for the better.

How to takeover the MSM? Can't say.




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