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The above observational and modeling results suggest the following intrinsic mechanism of the climate system leading to major climate shifts. First, the major climate modes tend to synchronize at some coupling strength. When this synchronous state is followed by an increase in the coupling strength, the network’s synchronous state is destroyed and after that climate emerges in a new state. The whole event marks a significant shift in climate. It is interesting to speculate on the climate shift after the 1970s event. The standard explanation for the post 1970s warming is that the radiative effect of greenhouse gases overcame shortwave reflection effects due to aerosols. However, comparison of the 2035 event in the 21st century simulation and the 1910s event in the observations with this event, suggests an alternative hypothesis, namely that the climate shifted after the 1970s event to a different state of a warmer climate, which may be superimposed on an anthropogenic warming trend.
Then, no harm done. We have cleaner and more efficient means of producing energy. Bummer.
What if this is the natural climate cycle and like the human body, just a natural variation within a normal temperature ranges.
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: Phage
But what if it isn't the major climate forcing but just some minor forcing of little value?
so your deflection is that the scientists got it wrong, not al gore? Ooookaaayy.......
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: markosity1973
Many scientists are now warning that we are moving closer to several "tipping points" that could — within as little as 10 years
So, if I may paraphase: he was relaying that scientist had said that it was possible that in "as little as 10 years" a tipping point "could"Well, the 10 years are about up, by now, warming should have reached “planetary emergency levels”
Why would it matter how close they are?
yes I agree - geothermal is a viable energy source that could be constant. However, as you build more plants, they get closer together. However, geothermal is NOT what is being built in a majority of the cases.
Nor am I saying that turbines and solar don't have a place. They are perfect for site specific purposes. You just can't support an entire civilization with an inconstant energy suppy.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks
Innocent? That's an odd word to use.
That's a trick question, don't you think? Sort of like "are you still beating your wife?"
That he doesnèt know that he is selling snake oil. Is that your opinion.
It is my opinion, which I presume I've made quite clear over the years here on ATS, that global warming and its effects on climate is a matter of very great concern. It doesn't really matter what Al Gore or Anthony Watts say about.
originally posted by: diogeneese33
snowing and twisters in Texas, 75 degree Christmas in DC, Seattle looks Like southern California weather wise almost all year... I think Al Gores intelligence has infected our planets weather system because its clearly insane and makes zero sense!!!
snowing and twisters in Texas, 75 degree Christmas in DC, Seattle looks Like southern California weather wise almost all year...