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originally posted by: rukia
a reply to: threeeyesopen
Yes! Please tell me more. I don't doubt their faith in God--but I am ignorant of their practices. I do know that God said that practicing magic (basically) was bad and dangerous and not to mess with it. But...I have to ask: What do you mean, different kinds of magic? If I think that this magic comes from demons--like how supposedly Solomon (but was it THE King Solomon? I always wonder because I wasn't aware of him dabbling in demon things until I came to ATS actually) used them to build stuff and do other things--then doesn't that answer the question? I am of the belief that yes, you can get power from plenty of places, but if it isn't from God, there's a price. I'm not going to judge whether that's right or wrong because that's up to you to decide.
Magic is just basically influencing the energy, right? So what do you mean by different kinds? I don't know much about what people say about magic. I know a lot about energy/aether, though--or, well, what you can know from being able to see it (which, it might surprise you, ain't much--lol 'a lot' my grass). I don't really do anything--or know how to for that matter. Basically, I'm a major noob.
Thank you for responding. You seem like you know what you're talking about
Was magic more involved in history than I'm thinking?
I learned that there were purported survivors of Atlantis—being the natives of the Basque region of Spain and Southern France. Basque cultural history, as I have touched upon briefly in other threads (because I am largely ignorant of it and seeking to learn more), is deeply rooted in the supernatural. That’s part of what makes the culture unique in the sense that the supernatural was taken literally versus simply as myth--the supernatural is history to them. And apparently, the Merovingian bloodline originated in Basque—they are likely descendants of the 12 tribes of Judah that scattered across the globe.
We present, to our knowledge, the first genome-wide sequence data from eight human remains, dated to between 5,500 and 3,500 years before present, excavated in the El Portalón cave at Sierra de Atapuerca, Spain.
We show that these individuals emerged from the same ancestral gene pool as early farmers in other parts of Europe, suggesting that migration was the dominant mode of transferring farming practices throughout western Eurasia. In contrast to central and northern early European farmers, the Chalcolithic El Portalón individuals additionally mixed with local southwestern hunter–gatherers. The proportion of hunter–gatherer-related admixture into early farmers also increased over the course of two millennia.
The Chalcolithic El Portalón individuals showed greatest genetic affinity to modern-day Basques, who have long been considered linguistic and genetic isolates linked to the Mesolithic whereas all other European early farmers show greater genetic similarity to modern-day Sardinians.
originally posted by: threeeyesopen
a reply to: jobless1
Thank you for answering the question for me as it's almost word for word what I was going to write lol.
You are absolutely correct with what you said about visualizing and focusing your energy.
I'm not sure however that control is the right word to use when we talk about demons. Although there are methods to get rid of a negative entity such as a demon, I don't believe you will get rid of it in it's entirely nor have control over it's actions.
As you stated, in order to have that "power" over them you would need to be holier than thou, and who here is pure of heart ?
Also as a personal note from my own life that I like to share with people on here regarding this subject; if you go looking for power, knowledge etc in dark places, don't be surprised if the darkness follows you and consumes all the light (good) around you.
A lot of the people in the past who had contact with those entities didn't exactly live a comfortable life and if you try it nowadays I'm sure you would still suffer the same consequences as they did.
Oh and as for types of magic, well the basic two are white and black magic, or good/bad magic. I've always had trouble identifying either as such however because good and bad is subjective.
For instance if I gain power from a demon in order to do good things, does that make me a bad person ?
Everything is subjective so it's best to explore things personally, knowing what your limits are of course.
I'm saying, let's pretend it's true. Plato wrote down what Socrates said. Socrates had no written works--Greeks did oral culture. And Socrates isn't the only one to document its existence. It's not that far-fetched at all. He used allegory, but he wrote of Atlantis with surprising description.