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Donald Trump’s Strongest Supporters: A Certain Kind of Registered Democrat...43% of them...

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posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 03:38 PM
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The Republican and Democratic parties are in trouble. In fighting with the GOP and the Tea party as well as the Blue Dog Democrat that associate more with the right than the left. The true old school democrat who had some conservative views. The country is tired of establishment. They do not want more taxes but more jobs. They want to secure our country not by refusing entry but making it more stringent. They want us to not be a nation of 'forgivers' but a nation again of leaders. Leaders who want what is best for all and not just their lobbyists in office. This election will be determined by the independent voter as will as those who will decide to not vote in line with their party who are traditionally the LIV's the Democrats rely on.


The data also reflects the preferences of Republican 2016 general election voters — a smaller group than all registered voters, but larger than a primary or caucus electorate. The broad pattern in the Civis data is still clear, however.His geographic pattern of support is not just about demographics — educational attainment, for example. It is not necessarily the typical pattern for a populist, either. In fact, it’s almost the exact opposite of Ross Perot’s support in 1992, which was strongest in the West and New England, and weakest in the South and industrial North.



www.nytimes.com...

In this recent poll published by the NY Times ( are they ok ATSNN left?) There are some surprising statistics about Mr Trumps campaign. IT was culled from the 31 states that allow voters to choose to register with a party


He pulls 33% of Republican leaning voters. This is inline with almost all polls in the nation. He is anywhere from 25-40%. However, the nest is shocking and could lead him to not show as well in the primaries.

43% of registered democrats 'polled' say they would vote for him.
36% of non-registered Independents also say they would vote for him.


Perhaps above all else, the data shows that Mr. Trump has broad support in the G.O.P., spanning all major demographic groups. He leads among Republican women and among people in well-educated and affluent areas. He even holds a nominal lead among Republican respondents that Civis estimated are Hispanic, based on their names and where they live.


Women and Hispanics, the group the Hillary hopes to pull is also, once again in this poll, showing a great amount of support for Mr Trump. He also scores well among those who are less likely to turn out and vote. This may hurt or help in the long run.

Bottom line is Democrats do not seem to be happy with the direction of the party and we are seeing an alignment of voters that has not been seen since Mr Reagan came in with his no-nonsense approach and swept the election in 1980. His campaign stressed some of his fundamental principles that we see reiterated by Trump. To lower taxes to stimulate the economy,a less intrusive government , re-establishment of states' rights,and a strong national defense.


NOTE - 11,000 people responded to this poll. I am pretty sure there were more than 10 blacks so it is safe to say we have a good demographic on this one....
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posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 04:00 PM
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No surprise.

The "progressives" have alienated many democrats who actually still believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the bill of rights and the constitution.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs


www.nytimes.com...

In this recent poll published by the NY Times ( are they ok ATSNN left?) There are some surprising statistics about Mr Trumps campaign. IT was culled from the 31 states that allow voters to choose to register with a party


He pulls 33% of Republican leaning voters. This is inline with almost all polls in the nation. He is anywhere from 25-40%. However, the nest is shocking and could lead him to not show as well in the primaries.

43% of registered democrats say they would vote for him.
36% of non-registered Independents also say they would vote for him.

Women and Hispanics, the group the Hillary hopes to pull is also, once again in this poll, showing a great amount of support for Mr Trump. He also scores well among those who are less likely to turn out and vote. This may hurt or help in the long run.

You forgot the other part of the description. It is not 43% of all registered democrats or 24% Latino. Is is 43% of registered democrats who openly identify as Republican. Same with Latino. Trump does not nearly have that level of support in the Democratic party.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: blargo

Wrong.

Like the title says...

Donald Trump’s Strongest Supporters: A Certain Kind of Registered Democrat...43% of them..

43% of the polled Democrats support Donald Trump. Registered DEMOCRATS....
Trumps support by ethnicity is 24% Latino...

I changed the OP to include 'polled' democrats to avoid confusion for other LIV


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posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 04:55 PM
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guess again:


Donald Trump holds a dominant position in national polls in the Republican race in no small part because he is extremely strong among people on the periphery of the G.O.P. coalition.

He is strongest among Republicans who are less affluent, less educated and less likely to turn out to vote. His very best voters are self-identified Republicans who nonetheless are registered as Democrats. It’s a coalition that’s concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North, according to data provided to The Upshot by Civis Analytics, a Democratic data firm.


"self-identified Republicans who nonetheless are registered as Democrats," meaning Repubs who in the past registered as Dems in all likelihood to skew Dem primaries. I know very few, if any, "self-identified Democrats" who have any inclination to vote for Trump. Then again it is always easy to skew polls - ask a Dem who among the Republican candidates they would vote for, it might well be Trump. That says all you need to hear about the likes of Bush, Rubio, or Cruz. Ask those same Dems who they would vote for in the general election, it won't be Trump.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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An honest question: What is a registered democrat? Is there a pledge to sign?

I am a member of a skilled trades building union and lean toward the democratic lines. I do not like the democratic parties stance on immigration ie: amnesty, dream act etc... But really dislike the republican parties stance on unions and the enviroment

I hope Bernie Sanders is our candidate but in a Hillary vs. Trump battle, I might vote Trump.

Pretty sure he is anti union but just his whole F U attitude toward the things that are wrong in this country may be what we need.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 05:18 PM
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I don't know any Democrats that like Trump.

I have a lot of people from all over the spectrum on my Facebook. I know/meet a lot of people and deal with the public.

Honestly? You really want to know what I've seen?

The only people who support Trump are old people, crazy libertarians, hardcore conservatives...I could include some of my racist and bigoted inlaws as well, but I won't paint that broad of a brush. Trump probably doesn't go far enough for the majority of racists to be frank.

I don't know anyone who's "middle of the road" or "left leaning" that *likes* Trump, let alone wants him POTUS.

These kinds of polls are crap anyway. We used to get them from time to time. We'd never answer, hang up, or mess with them and give fake answers. Who actually answers these telephone polls? Who are these people?

The people who answer these polls are probably not a very good representation of the actual people. Just keep that in mind. A lot of people have cut their land lines and only use a cell -- most of these are young (over 20, under 50) people. So, naturally you're going to get a lot of older, retired folks who still have this notion of "respecting those who call on the telephone".

Polls ... pretty much crap, but good propaganda for any candidate and any political party!



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Registered Democrats. Asked if they would support Trump. 43% said yes. You can try all you want but that is a fact. Anytime a poll is not in the eyes of the reader they say 'it is easy to skew'. Look up Blue Dog Democrat like I stated in the OP.

I have many friends who have surprised the hell out of me who are not voting for Hillary. A few who are registered Democrats in Fl who hold public office. They are a little troubled because they are supporting Trump but still want to be Democrats to run their next campaigns which include state seats. Long time Democrats are ready to not only re-register but to change the actual platform they will be running on.

All it take is 2 in 10 to cross sides to sway this next election. 47% of Americans identify as Dems. 41% identify as GOP.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: tinner07

You are the exact representation that this post is about. Someone who traditionally will vote as a democrat but may have some leanings based on the nominee. You may also have some more conservative views than the typical modern Pelosi democrat.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 05:23 PM
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Did anyone go to the article? Did anyone catch this?



Hm...so on the left we have Republicans that support Trump, the darker the more support.

On the right we have areas where racially charged internet searches are most common, the darker the more common.

Anyone seeing any kind of pattern here?



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Bottom line is Democrats do not seem to be happy with the direction of the party
How do you figure?

Your source:

He is strongest among Republicans who are less affluent, less educated and less likely to turn out to vote. His very best voters are self-identified Republicans who nonetheless are registered as Democrats. It’s a coalition that’s concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North, according to data provided to The Upshot by Civis Analytics, a Democratic data firm.

www.nytimes.com...

That's that "certain type of Democrat" from the title.


a reply to: matafuchs

Registered Democrats. Asked if they would support Trump. 43% said yes
No. 43% of self-identified Republicans who were registered as Democrats. Not 43% of registered democrats. And you claim that:

Democrats do not seem to be happy with the direction of the party
Based on this? To me, it would indicate that if that many self-identified Republicans are registered as Democrats, it is the Republicans who are disenchanted, not the Democrats.

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posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
No surprise.

The "progressives" have alienated many democrats who actually still believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the bill of rights and the constitution.



Do you mean people like Kentucky's Kim Davis?

Tell you what, Trump and the GOP can have them, consider it a gift.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 05:41 PM
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The headline and title are misleading.

The poll is referring to conservatives and traditional GOP/Republicans that changed their registration to Democrat. This isn't just blanket Democrats in general.

The devil, my friends, is always in the details.

Yes, 43%...but it's 43% of a very, VERY specific KIND of Democrat. LOL



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

If anything, these last few Trump "polls" should open people's eyes about polling in general. Maybe people will start looking into the details before jumping to conclusions about what the polls supposedly represent.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

There is nothing misleading. That is your opinion and it is incorrect. A registered democrat. They did not change. Your statement is a lie that is not based in anything but your opinion. The devil is Hillary Clinton who these registered democrats are leaving because.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

So suddenly since Trump is polling well all polls are bull#? What a bunch of whiners...all of you.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs



Your statement is a lie that is not based in anything but your opinion.

The statement is based on the article you linked in your OP.

Mr. Trump’s share of the vote among self-identified Republicans.




So suddenly since Trump is polling well all polls are bull#? What a bunch of whiners...all of you.
Trump has been polling well for quite a while. The BS is in your spin on this one.

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posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: Phage

What spin? There is no spin. This is what is so hysterical on site...

Post a link or it does not exist. You post a link and people, like you, say it is bs. Why, because you think so?

I was also referring to polling well among certain classes which the majority of you tried to pick apart in another thread. I know you are smarter than this. Show me the spin????

I think what pisses most of you off is the fact that I don't cower to your insults or bs not the polls or how well he is doing. I won't cower. That is what our country has done and look where that has got us.

I guess it is ok with most of you if a man identifies as a woman(or vice versa) and can win a woman of the year award but if a Democrat....A REGISTERED IN THE STATE WHERE POLLED Democrat identifies with some core conservative GOP leanings than it is not ok.

I am simply a person who wants to show what is really occurring and not what Facebook memes represent....



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

Nobody else bit but I will. That was the whole reason I linked the NYT article and not anything else. Even when it is not shown, somehow, race will be bought into it. Based on Internet search history...hmmmm....and how did they get that?



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: enlightenedservant

So suddenly since Trump is polling well all polls are bull#? What a bunch of whiners...all of you.


Don't put words in my mouth. Polls, surveys, and statistics are useless without context, as this "poll" shows.

And my post was clearly referring to the "poll" that claimed 40% of African Americans support Trump, when it was really just 4 out of 10 conservative African Americans who said they'd support him. In statistics, that's a BS "poll". The sample size is too small to be credible, not to mention how it was only conservative African Americans, which make up a minority of us.







 
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