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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: queenofswords
Its amazing how in denial some of you guys in the states are.
But that is your problem.
originally posted by: jellyrev
Does the UK ban Japanese and other east asian countries leaders for their countries stance on no muslims?!?!?
Thought so.
Does the UK ban saudi royalty into the country still? a country with numerous violations of civil rights?
thought so.
Let's be consistent. These people are truly just whining to whine.
This on an equivalent level of stupidity as when americans tried to rename french fries "freedom fries" during the 2nd invasion of Iraq due to france's political stance.
I don't even like Trump or his policies but out of spite for how much I depise the current 1st world crybabies I may vote for him. This may be the straw that changed my mind.
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Discotech
I think it says more about us than it does about him, we don't like what he says, ok let's ban him from the country.
It's censorship at its core and while I disagree with what he says and think he's an idiot when it comes to politics I don't think we should censor him from our country
It sets us on a very slippery slope where we begin banning plenty of other people just because a vocal minority (500k is a minority number compared to the population) are offended by someone says
Would it not be better to let him in ? Challenge his views with logic and reason rather just ban him with no chance of changing his mindset or making him see sense ?
Its not censorship issue.
Its a border control issue.
He is not a UK citizen and therefore does not have a right to enter.
It is a privilege to enter the UK for him and one that can be revoked at any time.
He is a walking security risk and letting him within our borders will add nothing of benifit to the UK.
So no point letting him through our borders.
originally posted by: whyamIhere
originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: queenofswords
Its amazing how in denial some of you guys in the states are.
But that is your problem.
To be fair the thread was highly divisive by its nature.
Also, it's not going to happen so it seems someone is trying to pick a fight.
I would also like to add...Most American Citizens (myself included) don't get your system.
All that whistling and booing. Mixed with some pointing and a lot of yelling.
So, when Brits in peticular, charge in to American Politics like you guys get it ?
Wasn't there a war about that ? If the Americans elect a President you don't like. So What ?
So Please my British busybody's, light up a fag and let us elect the guy we choose..
originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015
a reply to: crazyewok
Yeah but he's potentially the next leader of a nation that is one of our few real international allies and the diplomatic fallout would leave us isolated. It seems to be a remarkably stupid and unrealistic thing to call for.
originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015I think anybody should be allowed to talk here, even violent extremist hate mongers should be given a platform, then they should be intelligently debated in public and ridiculed so the validity of their ideas never even takes root. The more you shut somebody up, the more people want to hear what they have to say.
originally posted by: whyamIhere
originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: queenofswords
Its amazing how in denial some of you guys in the states are.
But that is your problem.
To be fair the thread was highly divisive by its nature.
Also, it's not going to happen so it seems someone is trying to pick a fight.
I would also like to add...Most American Citizens (myself included) don't get your system.
All that whistling and booing. Mixed with some pointing and a lot of yelling.
So, when Brits in peticular, charge in to American Politics like you guys get it ?
Wasn't there a war about that ? If the Americans elect a President you don't like. So What ?
So Please my British busybody's, light up a fag and let us elect the guy we choose..
originally posted by: Trueman
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Discotech
I think it says more about us than it does about him, we don't like what he says, ok let's ban him from the country.
It's censorship at its core and while I disagree with what he says and think he's an idiot when it comes to politics I don't think we should censor him from our country
It sets us on a very slippery slope where we begin banning plenty of other people just because a vocal minority (500k is a minority number compared to the population) are offended by someone says
Would it not be better to let him in ? Challenge his views with logic and reason rather just ban him with no chance of changing his mindset or making him see sense ?
Its not censorship issue.
Its a border control issue.
He is not a UK citizen and therefore does not have a right to enter.
It is a privilege to enter the UK for him and one that can be revoked at any time.
He is a walking security risk and letting him within our borders will add nothing of benifit to the UK.
So no point letting him through our borders.
Hahaha...., He's gonna remember all that if he wins. That could create a high demand of knee pads in UK.
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Trueman
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Discotech
I think it says more about us than it does about him, we don't like what he says, ok let's ban him from the country.
It's censorship at its core and while I disagree with what he says and think he's an idiot when it comes to politics I don't think we should censor him from our country
It sets us on a very slippery slope where we begin banning plenty of other people just because a vocal minority (500k is a minority number compared to the population) are offended by someone says
Would it not be better to let him in ? Challenge his views with logic and reason rather just ban him with no chance of changing his mindset or making him see sense ?
Its not censorship issue.
Its a border control issue.
He is not a UK citizen and therefore does not have a right to enter.
It is a privilege to enter the UK for him and one that can be revoked at any time.
He is a walking security risk and letting him within our borders will add nothing of benifit to the UK.
So no point letting him through our borders.
Hahaha...., He's gonna remember all that if he wins. That could create a high demand of knee pads in UK.
Whats thats meant to mean?
originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: neformore
I find it interesting that entering the UK is a priveledge... it is ironic considering that Trump just thinks the US should re-examine the priveledge of entering the states... and it's not a right here, either. It seems like the whole world has declared war on terror, but gosh darn it the US better be hyper vigilant in its political correctness. Just silly... the UK has been influencing in US politics for a very long time, and hell, we mind our own business when it comes to the UK. Imagine if we had something to say about your Queen, would it matter?
originally posted by: Trueman
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Trueman
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Discotech
I think it says more about us than it does about him, we don't like what he says, ok let's ban him from the country.
It's censorship at its core and while I disagree with what he says and think he's an idiot when it comes to politics I don't think we should censor him from our country
It sets us on a very slippery slope where we begin banning plenty of other people just because a vocal minority (500k is a minority number compared to the population) are offended by someone says
Would it not be better to let him in ? Challenge his views with logic and reason rather just ban him with no chance of changing his mindset or making him see sense ?
Its not censorship issue.
Its a border control issue.
He is not a UK citizen and therefore does not have a right to enter.
It is a privilege to enter the UK for him and one that can be revoked at any time.
He is a walking security risk and letting him within our borders will add nothing of benifit to the UK.
So no point letting him through our borders.
Hahaha...., He's gonna remember all that if he wins. That could create a high demand of knee pads in UK.
Whats thats meant to mean?
Means you might had a chance to see how fast your government change their opinion.
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: queenofswords
Ha ha ha ha, I knew you would defend him so really what's the point? Imagine if any real politician said that, like Obama, you would be all over his ass and you know it! But since a conservative said it it's totally okay. I know boarder guards, in fact one of them was featured on Boarder Wars, and what Trump spouts is just nonsense and that's because the majority of crap coming out of his mouth are exaggerations and lies.
No, I don't want a politician like him, ever.
originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: neformore
I find it interesting that entering the UK is a priveledge... it is ironic considering that Trump just thinks the US should re-examine the priveledge of entering the states... and it's not a right here, either. It seems like the whole world has declared war on terror, but gosh darn it the US better be hyper vigilant in its political correctness. Just silly... the UK has not influenced US politics for a very long time, and hell, we mind our own business when it comes to the UK. Imagine if we had something to say about your Queen, would it matter?