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originally posted by: NWOwned
then I try my best to imagine it 'collapsing' vertically down... (try it yourself... just imagine)
I can't see it. It's not possible etc.
The sounds are not important. We all know that media microphones are made to drown out background sounds.
It is the visual of watching something that the government, the media, and NIST purposely ignored.
Then someone please explain why we see thousands of tons of steel support beams blowing upward and outwards in every direction over 600 feet and impaling some of the thousands tons of beams into other buildings?
If the WTC just fell all by themselves without any help just from office fires that weekended the steel.
.. Then someone please explain why we see thousands of tons of steel support beams blowing upward and outwards in every direction over 600 feet and impaling some of the thousands tons of beams into other buildings?
If the WTC just fell down, on it's lease resistance as all buildings do from fire or earth quakes, then how come we do not see chunks of concrete or parts of the lower floors still intact.
originally posted by: Informer1958
they saw explosions, flashes going around the WTC as they were coming down,
What about the people who were in the basement of the WTC who went on the historical recorded as being in some of the explosions before the WTC fell?
Why would the basement have explosions? These questions have never been address property.
The fact that debris if flung outwards is not indicative of a controlled demolition operation.
First of all, cutter charges are used to cut the steel columns and then, other explosives are used to push the steel columns in the desired direction, but the explosives are not powerful enough to fling huge steel columns hundreds of feet, only enough to facilitate the collapse.
The fact there is no seismic data for explosives
they must be firmly attached to the steel columns and detonated whereas, shock signals will be generated and the signal will detected by seismographs, which didn't happen during 9/11 because the data depicts the impacts and collapse, but nothing that depicts demolition explosions as stated by the seismograph operators.
I wouldn't expect much to be left of the lower floors with the huge amount of mass of the upper floors crashing down from above.
This does not explain how these thousands of tons of WTC support beams were traveling at 60 miles an hour and flying over 600 feet in every direction including upward.
originally posted by: Pilgrum
a reply to: NWOwned
The lateral support was removed when the floors were smashed by the falling mass. The floor trusses stabilised the core via connection to the outer wall columns. With the 'hat' in place on those core columns they might have stood a chance of remaining intact without the floors but that was part of the mass that fell to smash through the floors leaving the individual columns to fend for themselves.
The part that confounds you is that it would take an enormous amount of explosives to move steel up and out. The glazers union would have been in work for years replacing all the windows blown out by the blasts. No good conspirator would have used that much explosive to no advantage and announced to the world that it was a demolition.
WTC towers were 1362 ft high - collapse zone around them would be 2000 ft in ALL DIRECTIONS !!