It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Their power in the gospels is quite evident... All one needs to do is look at how they made several attempts to trick Jesus into breaking their laws to see that many people feared them, likely including some of their own who actually followed Jesus themselves...
OR we could take a look at Mark 7:5-7
He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.
Brother... do you not see that he tells his people this to save them from persecution?
Again... do you really believe Jesus would tell people to do something that he doesn't do himself?
There is no evidence Jesus stuck to kosher laws in the NT
originally posted by: Gnosisisfaith
a reply to: Punisher75
I should point out that Jesus is not a historical person. We have evidence of people who existed long before AD1 so if a man who did what he supposedly did was real and wed have evidence. Credible evidence. Faith is a euphemism for abandoning logic is detrimental to the psyche, producing a chosen ones mentality that allows the disciples of Christ the arrogance they so often display and the the ignorance of believing every one not "saved is going to hell.
originally posted by: Punisher75
a reply to: Sigismundus
LOL yea we should get back on topic.
I think the Problem with trying to ask which is better the Septuagint versus Masoretic as far as which is closer to the original text, is not so easy to answer.
Why? It is a question of transmission, and how it is done.
Sometimes there will be some passages in the Masoretic that do not agree with all other texts in that corpus, but might actually agree with the majority of texts in the Septuagint corpus.
The reverse is also true.
This is why when people are trying to translate the texts into, say English they tend to pull from both bodies in attempt to get what is the most likely correct wording.
i.e. They try to translate in a way that has the most agreement of wording from both texts.
If that was a minority viewpoint as PUNISHER75 claims, then I have to assume you mean biblical scholars and not historical scholars.
Neither the Modern Masoretic or Septuagint are honest when compared with the ancient dead sea scrolls
Dead Sea Scrolls reveal polytheism in ancient Israel that no one wants to talk about ever.
originally posted by: Gnosisisfaith
Please, Ive read the non canonical dead sea scrolls, I know more than enough to know every biblical ot book was found exept esther. My bible used those side by side with the Masoretic and when there was a discrepancy went with the older DSS. I have a sense you think you're smarter than you actually are.