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The Yngling mounds of Uppsala

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posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 08:29 AM
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The Yngling burial mounds of old Uppsala in Sweden consist of thousands of small burial mounds, likely containing cremation urns, in the vicinity of three primary mounds, one of which in some tradition was considered to contain the remains of the God of the world, Freyr, who was held to have founded the site and been the progenitor of the Swedish Yngling Dynasty.


Frey built a great temple at Upsal, made it his chief seat, and gave it all his taxes, his land, and goods. Then began the Upsal domains, which have remained ever since. Then began in his days the Frode-peace; and then there were good seasons, in all the land, which the Swedes ascribed to Frey

Frey was called by another name, Yngve; and this name Yngve was considered long after in his race as a name of honour, so that his descendants have since been called Ynglinger

Frey fell into a sickness; and as his illness took the upper hand, his men took the plan of letting few approach him. In the meantime they raised a great mound, in which they placed a door with three holes in it. Now when Frey died they bore him secretly into the mound, but told the Swedes he was alive;




It looks like from old photographic evidence these may have been somewhat pyramid in form, but they are just earthen mounds and time erodes all things and now they are rounded, it is also jeld the mounds were of three great Kings.


According to the Ynglinga saga the kings Aun, Egil and Adils were buried in Old Uppsala. One interpretation is that these are buried in the three great mounds.

They belonged to the Ynglinga line which, if the Icelandic sagas are to be believed, was established in Old Uppsala in the late 5th century.
The term “The Ynglinga line” is derived from the fertility god Freyr, also known as Yngve-Freyr. The kings meant they were descended from him



I;m not so sure this site is very well understood, only in 2013 excavations uncovered astonishing constructions of lines of pillars likely around 8 meters in height, 144 of them extending over 900 meters, i looked at this alignment and perhaps it indicated the rising point of Pollux in Gemini at the time of the Spring equinox, there is also another axis known to extend for at least 500 meters.

It's also possible that when the sun was setting in the South West at a certain time on a certain day the shadows cast by the poles would all form alignment.


There was a very important Temple at Uppsala, the construction of which Freyr was held to have undertaken, dedicated to himself, and illustrations of this generally look pretty much like most Northern European churches, because after all they were originally built in the style of the great halls, which the presumed Temple at Uppsala more likely had the function of, as rituals generally took place in the open.


The archaeological finds in combination with literary sources lend support to the idea that Uppsala had hall buildings with ritual functions. Adam's temple is not confirmed by indigenous sources, though these often refer to buildings. Ynglingasaga says "Freyr erected a huge hof at Uppsala and made his chief residence there" The word hof/hov probably denoted "hall", but may connote "sanctuary" as well. It appears quite frequently in Swedish place-names, where it sometimes denotes "banqueting hall."



Until the Temple was destroyed in 1087 regular gatherings and sacrifice were held there;


Every ninth year there is a blót of nine days, a common feast for everyone in Sweden. Then they sacrifice nine males of each species, even men, and the bodies are hung from the branches of a grove near the temple. No one is exempt from this blót and everyone sends gifts to the shrine, even the kings. Those who are Christian have to pay a fee not to take part in the blót


The sacrificial cult at Uppsala derived from Freyr himself being that Deity of nature which is sent to the underworld at the end of the harvest to return in Spring, a God of fertility, je thius instituted the basic principle of sacrifice toward the future generation of life.


in order to mollify the divinities he did indeed make a holy sacrifice of dark-coloured victims to the god Frø. He repeated this mode of propitiation at an annual festival and left it to be imitated by his descendants. The Swedes call it Frøblot


The festivals themselves appear to have been more jolly rather than grim occasions;


...at Uppsala in the period of sacrifices, he had become disgusted with the womanish body movements, the clatter of actors on the stage and the soft tinkling of bells. It is obvious how far his heart was removed from frivolity if he could not even bear to watch these occasions. A manly individual is resistant to wantonness



Perhaps that was a celebration of the return of Freyr in Spring, there would have been much in common with these and the cult of Dumuzid and Inanna in Mesopotamia, they were accused of similar festivities, the cult of resurrection, Freyr also had the same cultic animal as Damu, the boar, but anyway there we are, a very important site in terms of Northern European early religion.

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posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 08:49 AM
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Bookmarking this as Prinsesse Åløf "the Yngling" is my direct ancestor 34 generations and lived in that era in Uppsala. Reading and watching video later. Thank you !



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

That's great, being a descendant of Freyr, the God of this world...


Another video here which looks at his relationship to great sea borne migrations and ship burials.




posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 09:52 AM
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My understanding was that during the pre-Christian era there was only an open-air worship place of free-standing large posts (and mounds), versus an actual built temple, which didn't come until later during the Christian influence.



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

As i mentioned what was described as a Temple was more likely a banqueting hall which could be found at important cultural centres, that in conjunction as a place of power of the Royal Dynasty, and of course those would have looked like churches which were styled after the great halls.


Snorri mentioned a winter market at Uppsala held at the same time as the cult feast and Thing of the Svear. This is probably identical with the Disthing attested in Upplandslagen (1296 AD). The name dísir, itself indicates a pre-Christian origin. Snorri tells about the dísarsalar at Uppsala where the disablót took place (Hkr I, IF 27, p. 109). There is strong evidence that in skaldic poetry, ON salr often denotes a "banquet hall". In Eddic poetry its meaning is more ambivilent, but in other Germanic languages equivilents of the word denote "hall for banquets or gatherings". At Uppsala, the name of the market, Disþing, also indicates a pre-Christian assembly attached to the cult of the Disir. In a passage in Snorri's Ólafs saga helga, ch. 77, the Uppsala sacrifices are intgrated with the Thing and the fair:

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posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

Nice any reference to that statement, since there a very very few church records at that time, or do i just have to believe you?



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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Ive done some research in this topic

A couple of ceremonies;

Blot = Blood

Disablot - In february

Vårblot - Spring equinox approx. March 20th

Försommarblot - Valborg ( Celebrating the welcoming of the Summer, Burning ) - May 1st

Midsommarblot - Midsummers eve. approx June 20-21st

Skördeblot - Celebrating the harvest approx. Beginning of August

Höstblot - Fall equinox approx. September 22-23rd

Alvablot - Welcoming the winter. Last sunday of oct.

Midvinterblot - Christmas. December 21-22nd

Everyone of these seems to be of sacrificial nature in Uppsala



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: Kantzveldt

The rituals and pagan rituals, came with understanding about seasons.. reference to a fixated celestial body in the night sky and star charts, first example or history of germanic knowledge came with a reference latitude (51°N) summer and winter solstice.



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: Anansi

Yes i was looking at something here on the nine or as the author reckons eight year great festival;


The moon that shines in the sky on Twelfth Day (6/1) is the Christmas moon and after this follows the Disting’s moon. This means that the earliest date for the beginning of the Disting was 21 January (7/1+14 days) and the latest date was 19 February (7/1+29 days). The Disting started on the day of the full moon between 21/1 and 19/2, according to the Julian calendar. The corresponding interval for the beginning of the Disting in our modern calendar is 28 January-26February.


It's interesting and such a cycle would also be able to correlate with eight year cycles of Venus and Earth synodic periods, this year for example that full moon would be on 22nd February.


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posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: Kantzveldt

great find gonna add it to my collection



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: Anansi

Depends what you are after. There are Sagas and historical records/writings from other countries of these people. When you do genealogy and start building your tree it looks like it expands hugely but the same time you need to understand that amount of people living in that era was not many, means there were much less people living then than there are now ( even i get to Yngling family through 5 different direct lineages and Åløf is one of them ). For example in Norway there were estimated at 800AD only 80 000 people and Sweden and Finland a same ( tho those days there were no such a thing as Sweden, Norway and Finland just Norse ). In whole World at those times were 220 million people. When they didn´t have yet church records people still paid taxes.

Scandinavia was sparsely populated area and had much less inhabitants that there were in Europe. For example Charlemagne is Universal ancestor to European people, think about it.
Don´t make the mistake to believe history channel Vikings as a accurate story, when it isn´t in all details and lineages. Even Ragnar was discussed outside Sagas as a historical figure who did this and that, story which was made as a commercial purposes has bits and pieces from other Viking figures of those days.



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: dollukka

All the Western Germanic tribes also were understood to be descended from Yngvi, he had a lot of descendants...you're right though the population of Sweden wasn't great in the past, i suppose they were all expected to fit inside the great hall at Uppsala when attending the festival.



The Ingaevones or, as Pliny has it, apparently more accurately, Ingvaeones ("people of Yngvi"), as described in Tacitus's Germania, written c. 98 CE, were a West Germanic cultural group living along the North Sea coast in the areas of Jutland, Holstein, Frisia and the Danish islands, where they had by the 1st century BCE become further differentiated to a foreigner's eye into the Frisii, Saxons, Jutes and Angles. The postulated common group of closely related dialects of the Ingvaeones is called Ingvaeonic or North Sea Germanic

Ing, the legendary father of the Ingaevones/Ingvaeones derives his name from a posited proto-Germanic *Ingwaz, signifying "man" and "son of", as Ing, Ingo, or Inguio, son of Mannus. This is also the name applied to the Viking era deity Freyr, known in Sweden as Yngvi-Freyr and mentioned as Yngvi-Freyr in Snorri Sturluson'sYnglinga saga.


Ingaevones

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posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: dollukka

I think you are missing the point, how do you know if you arent a modern royalty, since church records wasnt in place until the 15th century..

How do you figure Charlemagne is a universal ancestor? A king born in the 8th century AD, there were about 25-30 million people living in Europe, that means he had to have sex with about one women per minute during 55 years..

What is wrong with the Vikings? Do you know something the historians missed out on, or the scholars..

Im just gonna call everything you said bull# if its ok with you



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 02:31 PM
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Charlemagne universal ancestor
Well how modern is modern, one lineage goes to there through Birger Jarl Magnusson Folkungaätt and her mother Ingrid Ylva Sunesdotter Sverkeratten.
You are missing the point, we can consider Ynglings as a universal ancestors of Norse countries just like Charlemagne as a universal ancestor of Europeans.



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 02:57 PM
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Well no we cant, our history in Sweden has always been formed by a king or a queen.. Gustav Vasa came there the first books on church records, before that you only had records of royalties.
Our modern King has his ancestors coming from France; Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, a General in Napoleons army.

Do you mean Gustav Vasa and Jean Baptiste are Universal, do i share their bloodline? Well if we go your way, we all came from that little singularity called the bigbang theory 13,7 BYA..

You just tell a lot of stories about nothing that can be verified, you understand why they always kept .. I can say i have a time machine and traveled back in time.



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: Anansi

Charlemagne universal ancestor
Well how modern is modern, one lineage goes to there through Birger Jarl Magnusson Folkungaätt and her mother Ingrid Ylva Sunesdotter Sverkeratten.
You are missing the point, we can consider Ynglings as a universal ancestors of Norse countries just like Charlemagne as a universal ancestor of Europeans.


You and Zimmer took a study of 2257 people and made it as a reference that 750million people share the same ancestry from 600 years ago..

Wow not out of context, we all share the same eve genome.. Does that relate me to Lucy 4 MYA?



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: Anansi
Intresting view !
Few surnames in lineage after Birger, Bese, Bielke, Bonde, Hammerstad, Königsmark, Gädda, von Gleichen ( not in this order ). So to you Birger never had children and they never knew his children ?

Maybe you should investigate your own lineage and more likely we are related

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posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: dollukka

Not likely, one part of the family is Kale, gypsies.. The other are Walloons, two groups that really dont wanna mingle with commoners..



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: Anansi

You know Swedish noble families were very much connected to noble families in Europe.. there is still a chance that we are. Birger´s great grandmother is Dronning of Danmark Adela de Flandre ( Flanders ). Didn´t Walloons lived in Flanders among other places.



posted on Dec, 30 2015 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: dollukka

I gonna give you a hint, both parts of my tree are connected and outside of commoners.. One part, were " educated monks " The other " Builders " What you are referring to are Warlords.. Walloons lived where there was work and were they could practice a Lutheran religion without being persecuted for their own beliefs,they were skilled craftsmen, when Sweden had its 17th century war escapade, Walloons came and made cannons,when the wars were over.. Most of them returned home to parts of belgium.. The gypsies well, they live in the fairytales of a grand past and practiced secrets of magick to commoners like you.. So they were banished to walk the lands for a long time..




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