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40% of black voters and 45% of Hispanic voters support Donald Trump..historic GOP numbers!

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posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: introvert

Like the Black Panthers who got a pass by the DOJ and Hussien Obama right?


That case was dropped because there was not one shred of evidence to support the claim. Not a single person filed a complaint, either.

The only reason that was such an issue is because the Right Wing propagandists made a big deal out of it. Apparently, it worked on some people.



Hussien Obama


Why do people continue to use this tactic? You think because his middle name sounds Muslim that it adds some sort of weight to your post? It's ignorant if you ask me.

But, of course, no one did.




posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 06:45 PM
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Further down the page..


Question #7) Would You rather vote for Donald Trump or have Your neighbors find out You are Muslim?

Question #9) For those who marked 'Hispanic' - Would You rather vote for Donald Trump or have all Your property seized and You shipped back to wherever You came? A 'No' selection gets Your Visitor VISA pulled..

Why not wait until the actual Erection? In 2012 The US Chamber of Commerce spent $100M on the Presidential Erection, why? Aren't most members business folks and NOT in the 'business' of politics? Did they just give each guy $50M?

Lets not address the real issues but let Us opine on what 'might' happen... typical. Don't look at the Zionist pulling the strings...

I'm admitting it right here and NOW- I'm $elling My votes to the highest bidder and I can even do web surveys and answer puzzling questions from folks who work for the erections... makes perfect sense. No wonder the rest of the world laughs..




posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: introvert

www.youtube.com...

People in the DOJ resigned.

J Christain Adams
Christopher Coates another DOJ member agreed

So, if no one agrees as far as voters it did not happen. Maybe they were afraid of a militant black man with a billy club dressed as a NBPP member. If it had been a KKK hood and a noose I am sure you would have a different story.

As far as Mr Hussien Obama, Or Barry Sotero, or whatever you want to call him, he had a hand in squashing this and if you think otherwise well...who cares. I won't lose sleep over your thoughts.
you can take your ignorant comment and put it in your 'black panther'...

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posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs



As far as Mr Hussien Obama, Or Barry Sotero


Oh, I didn't know you were one of "those" guys. Duly noted.

Anyway, no charges were ever brought to trail and the point is moot.

As far as your OP, can you comment on the validity of the poll? So far it appears to have been properly debunked.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:04 PM
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Right now the only thing polls matter about is if those being polled are part of that party and how things will play out in the various campaigns, all building up to July 2016. After that, then that is when polls will matter as the candidates for president will be determined and when the real election will begin, with a total of 3 months for those 2 or three people to conveince the general public that they would be the best for the job of president. And the various platforms and planks to be determined.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: introvert

"Those guys" -- what does that mean? I'm kind of clueless (I don't dig into this guttersnipe stuff) -- my boss throws those two names around in disgust all the time.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:10 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: introvert

"Those guys" -- what does that mean? I'm kind of clueless (I don't dig into this guttersnipe stuff) -- my boss throws those two names around in disgust all the time.


That is a loose term I hear used often, even in Republican circles, to describe the extreme nutters that have an absolute hatred for Obama and use "Hussein" and Barry Sotero in general conversation.

I was using it to be slightly humorous, but only slightly.




posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
I'm not going to try and debunk the poll, because everyone with an IQ above 70 knows this poll is BS

But anyway, I find it extremely sad that Donald Trump has a large fan base on this website, a website which motto is "Deny Ignorance"


Weird Straw Men there.

1) I've been tested at roughly 141 IQ. I at least wanted to check the source before I decide. Polls are polls, but a 70 IQ? A bit of a stretch. Didn't think 'stupidity' came down to poll thoughts.

2) Trump has large fan base. That is reality. I don't remember ATS being an "other than Trump" website. Or Liberal, or Conservative, or any Party affiliation in large.

3) "Deny Ignorance"? I don't understand how supporting Trump is ignorance. He seems to be pretty accurate on his talking points. I don't like the guy but I'll be damned if I can claim support of him is 'ignorance'.
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posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs


It would seem in the latest polls that are coming in that minorities are fully behind Trump in an opposite story from what the MSM is stating. After his build a wall statement it was said he would never carry a Hispanic vote. No one since Bob Dole in 1996 has carried more than 12% of the Black vote in the GOP. These are both historically low draws for the GOP.

According to a poll from Clout Research, he is pulling 40% of black voters and 45% of Hispanic voters support Donald Trump.


I'm not sure this one poll actually represents the same nationally, but I do believe Trump is getting more support from minorities than we're led to believe. It's true in my own experience, among my friends and family. The Mexican branch of our family (my husband's side) was established in Arizona long before it was a state. They have great compassion and sympathy for the victims of human smuggling, but also much contempt for the smugglers, and do not identify with them in any way. They are well aware of the horrors and atrocities committed by the "Coyotes" -- aka, the human smugglers. They know Trump was right but did a lousy job of expressing it... but they like that he is addressing it. They also like that Trump is Catholic, much the same way they still love JFK!

Many Black folks I know have expressed their disappointment in Obama, and their party/leaders in general, and are ready for something new. They see their White friends and family -- and everyone -- withering all around them. They see that the economic issues we're facing are hurting ALL of us, not just one race or class or whatever. Pretty much everyone I know -- regardless of whatever label or class or race or walk of life they come from -- are pretty fed up with the status quo of crony capitalism and lying liar politicians. In the end, we're all just people increasingly hurting and struggling just to get by, losing jobs (and more) to non-citizens both here and abroad, both legal and illegal, and all the while the privileged and political class get richer and more privileged.

Trump is new. Trump is change. Trump is lots of things. But the important thing is that he's not the status quo! Just like Bernie Sanders. I'm not supporting either one yet... my vote is still Gary Johnson's to lose... but I do love the support they're getting from the masses!



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

It's all about pushing the narrative that Sanders supporters are smart and Trump supporters are stupid.

In our Facebook society, everyone wants to be liked and thought of as smart.

If you push the narrative that Trump supporters are idiots, then maybe Trump will lose support because no one wants to be considered an idiot.
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posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:48 PM
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It's because Trump is really a democrat.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

Oh likely the same standards by which people measured hope and change when Obama ran in 2008. I don't recall very many asking about how we defined hope or change either one back then.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

It's all about pushing the narrative that Sanders supporters are smart and Trump supporters are stupid.

In our Facebook society, everyone wants to be liked and thought of as smart.

If you push the narrative that Trump supporters are idiots, then maybe Trump will lose support because no one wants to be considered an idiot.


One can make a case that Sanders is 'stupid'. In politics, whoever maligns the other as "racist", "homophobic", "stupid", "misogynistic"...the earliest and most often. WINS!

There are some very smart people supporting Trump. I discovered the other day at Christmas dinner, people I thought WOULD NEVER support him do. I'm talking the flamingest of the most flaming Hipster Liberals...in my own family. Like DNC lifelong voters who literally are Teacher's Union members and ex Hippies. LOL

Weird enigma happening
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posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:55 PM
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Who debunked it? and how? Is this a 9/11 thread where you can call someone ignorant, not agree, get a lot of stars and feel like the hero...nope!

As far as one of those guys, I think it is Freaking nuts that less than 7 years after 3000 innocent people die AND we kill a dictator called Hussein we elect one with the same name. Go back and suck the tit of the left socialist agenda and polish your boots. I am done with your insults.

No charges were bought because the the DOJ dropped it because GOD (can I say that) forbid a black person in this decade is held responsible for their actions...or maybe it is because our Muslim sympathizing POTUS could not stand to allow a case against Shabazz. The guy is on the SPLC's list as a radical but the DOJ does not prosecute. You are blind.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

I'd like to know by what standard this "greatness" is measured. What does it mean for America to be great? When was it great? What did that greatness look like? The 1950's? The 1950's were great for some folks, not so much for others...

You really can't point to a specific time in US history and claim it was "great" for all of its citizens...


Before Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1972 and we are now eighteen trillion dollars in debt since then.


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posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Historic GOP numbers!


4 black voters support Donald Trump..


ROFL



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs



Who debunked it? and how?


Did you look at whom conducted the poll and the number of minorities polled? Surely you can read and noticed the info posted by others.

It's junk man.



Is this a 9/11 thread where you can call someone ignorant, not agree, get a lot of stars and feel like the hero...nope!


Stars don't mean squat. Why are you concerned about how many is received? Inferiority complex?



As far as one of those guys, I think it is Freaking nuts that less than 7 years after 3000 innocent people die AND we kill a dictator called Hussein we elect one with the same name.


So you are one of "those guys". Who didn't see that coming?



Go back and suck the tit of the left socialist agenda and polish your boots. I am done with your insults.


Can't defend your propaganda so you resort to this? If us socialists are so bad, why can't you effectively debate us?

Perhaps it's a lack of facts. Lord knows your OP has very little.




No charges were bought because the the DOJ dropped it because GOD (can I say that) forbid a black person in this decade is held responsible for their actions


The disproportionate number of black people in prison may disagree with that absurd comment.



or maybe it is because our Muslim sympathizing POTUS


Yep, you're one of "those guys".

Lay off the Fox News crack pipe.



posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 08:57 PM
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If you paid attention it is the similar to the polling in September that showed him at 25% Black and 31% Hispanic but they have risen. Of course you will not because it does not fit your fantasy called life. I am not defending propaganda. These are facts.
Then you resort to the 'racism' route of simply saying Blacks are oppressed and in prison or the Truther thought that we should not care about 9/11. I guess you are one of 'those guys' who believe in thermite and all the other nonsensical 9'11 bs right? Try that crap at a Firefighter bar in NYC tough guy.

You see, are one of those guys who is all tough but you would not say # in a social setting or a bar because you would get you ass handed to you. But then I am sure you are one of those guys who trains MMA or says they are in special forces or knows tae kwon do or some other line of crap. You called my and any other supporter of someone other than your choice ignorant.

But I am sure if you said 10 blacks were asked if police are abusive and 8 said yes you would be fine to say 80% of black feel oppressed by whitey.

MMMM....that Fox crack mixed with some Trump blow is the best!!!! gimme more.....


I am proud to be 'myself' so if that means one of those guys so be it...
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posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 09:13 PM
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If you paid attention it is the similar to the polling in September that showed him at 25% Black and 31% Hispanic but they have risen.


Please provide that poll. I'd like to compare them.



I am not defending propaganda. These are facts.


Ok. Do you believe 10 people represent the pulse of a race's political intent?



Then you resort to the 'racism' route of simply saying Blacks are oppressed and in prison


That is based on the actual numbers of blacks in prison relative to population size. Surely you can find those statistics. They are freely available and are much more relevant than the opinion of 10 people that participated in a skewed poll conducted by partisan hacks.



or the Truther thought that we should not care about 9/11. I guess you are one of 'those guys' who believe in thermite and all the other nonsensical 9'11 bs right?


I fail to see what 9/11 has to do with a political poll. We're going a bit off the tracks, aren't we?



Try that crap at a Firefighter bar in NYC tough guy.

You see, are one of those guys who is all tough but you would not say # in a social setting or a bar because you would get you ass handed to you.


I don't step foot in a bar if I can help it. Drunk idiots and machismo do not mix.



But then I am sure you are one of those guys who trains MMA or says they are in special forces or knows tae kwon do or some other line of crap.


Projecting much? You really are debating like a pissed-off high school meathead.

Desperation leads to ignorance.



You called my and any other supporter of someone other than your choice ignorant.


I did not do any such thing. In fact, I'd like to see you quote where I said what my "choice" was.



But I am sure if you said 10 blacks were asked if police are abusive and 8 said yes you would be fine to say 80% of black feel oppressed by whitey.


I would not. That was easily disputed.



MMMM....that Fox crack mixed with some Trump blow is the best!!!! gimme more.....



As expected. The only thing I would say is that it takes a wise man to recognize that they have a problem. Fox crack and Trump blow is not good for you. Why are you trying to sell it to others?




posted on Dec, 29 2015 @ 09:56 PM
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I am not trying to sell anything...I am simply posting the truth. I am not skewing numbers. I am simply stating what is there.

www.surveyusa.com...

Read Number #1.

The rest has nothing to do with the thread. We can debate it somewhere else but not here. I am not caving but I feel like the derail is here and you are pushing it hard.

The last line was sarcasm Intro...



I think in this case we can agree to disagree.



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