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40% of black voters and 45% of Hispanic voters support Donald Trump..historic GOP numbers!

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posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: minersdollar

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

What's wrong with building a wall around America


What if there's a fire?


There's always a fire on the nutty west coast. If we built a dome, I'd be concerned.




posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

You have some great opinions. You can dislike something but that does not make it garbage. A place like WND may have some outrageous articles but some are based on fact. Like most MSM stories. You are just conditioned to write it all of as garbage because you heard or read about it from someone else. Like a LIV would do.

I usually read from about 7-8 different news sites including overseas news organizations.

Out of curiosity, who and where do you get your information from?


Actually I'm a journalist. I'm an insurance journalist. I've lost count of the number of sources I use to get my information from - I have to, it's my job. When Trumpster tried to claim that the jury was still out when it comes to global climate change I burst out laughing, because all the insurance and reinsurance companies were convinced that it's happening 20 years ago.
And no, I have to respectfully disagree with you about the veracity of WND, or World Nut Daily as it's known as in my office. The site is as reliable as a chocolate teapot. WND is the tool of Farah, who brought up the bogus claims about Obama's birth certificate (and anything else that cast doubt on Obama's eligibility).



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: UnBreakable

Obama has started no wars, closed two wars down, stopped the torture of prisoners and has repaired the economic damage caused by Bush. So no, his policy hasn't been Dubya II, he's been far, far better than Dubya.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: blargo

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: RomeByFire

400 people were polled. Is it the fault of those polling that only 10 were black?

Yes exactly it is. They did not get a good sample of people. Normal surveys would not even poll that group, they would get another sample that represents the data set they are trying to poll.


I hope everybody remembers the comments like this next time a poll comes out in their favor. I just think it's ironic that if this was a poll for Clinton and 4 out of 6 polled blacks said they'd vote for her, this poll would be legit to the same ones downing it.

Instead, people have searched deep and wide to find a way to basically say "No way, democrats always get the vote of minorities." I know it sucks for y'all that a GOP candidate is pulling in more minority support than normal, but you can blame the current president for this Trump popularity. And and Republicans that hate Trump can blame the useless Congress for Trumps popularity. And supporting him doesn't make you a racist.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Poor LIV... No wonder you burst out laughing when climate change was questioned. I believe it now after reading that post.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Poor LIV... No wonder you burst out laughing when climate change was questioned. I believe it now after reading that post.


Really? You think that I have a low volume of information on this? Really? You claim to be more educated on the impact of climate change than I am? I've been writing about it since 2003 and talking to insurance and reinsurance companies. I've read scientific reports and talked to modelling agencies like AIR. I'm not an expert by any means but I am informed about it. Where do you get your information about global climate change?



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Poor LIV... No wonder you burst out laughing when climate change was questioned. I believe it now after reading that post.


What's about with Trump supporters and calling anything that makes a peep a racist?

Quite the insecure bunch aren't they?

WND isn't a credible source, it just isn't. Nor is prison planet, breitbart, or daily wire.

I'm not saying this because they lean to the, "left-right," I'm saying this because... they're just not credible.

"Back in the day," ATS would block links to known hoax websites... Soorcha Fail and Godlike Productions being two more.

Now? "Oh?! Even if my source is garbage, it still makes some good points!"

Just unbelievable, man. If I were writing a research paper or a thesis, and used a citation that (I later find out to be) non-credible, keeping my source in and saying "but it has good information," would be an instant failure.

But I guess when it comes to politics these silly things such as credibility and objectivity mean nothing.

There was a thread just the other day that was started on "sources," that are not reputable and non-credible, and the OP defended their thread to the teeth... it was removed.

I'm going to go find this article on WND about nuclear weapons and rockets going off in Times Square on "Y2K."

You guys remember that, right?




posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: UnBreakable

Obama has started no wars, closed two wars down, stopped the torture of prisoners and has repaired the economic damage caused by Bush. So no, his policy hasn't been Dubya II, he's been far, far better than Dubya.



Really what two wars did he end?? Hrs sending troops to Iraq and afganistan and started two more.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: UnBreakable

Obama has started no wars, closed two wars down, stopped the torture of prisoners and has repaired the economic damage caused by Bush. So no, his policy hasn't been Dubya II, he's been far, far better than Dubya.



Obama has started no wars? Closed two wars down? Exactly, like I said, he just continued Dubya's policies. He destabilized Libya and Syria, ISIS has come to power under his watch, and the few prisoners he has released from Guantanamo have gone back to being dangerous radicals. Economic damage? No economic damage unless you ask the 93mmm people not in the workforce.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

He traded 5 known Taliban officers who returned to battle for an Army Deserter. His state department has been funding anti Assad rebels, AQ and ISIS/ISIL with weapons and lied about it and Benghazi. Repaired economic damage? There are 90 million able bodied people not in the workforce. He has killed Us citizens overseas with drones.

The war he has started is a race/class war in America which is just what he wanted.

You have no clue wtf you are talking about.
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posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

Then who should be believe in the media or do you think they are all corrupt?



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

He traded 5 known Taliban officers who returned to battle for an Army Deserter. His state department has been funding anti Assad rebels, AQ and ISIS/ISIL with weapons and lied about it and Benghazi. Repaired economic damage? There are 90 million able bodied people not in the workforce. He has killed Us citizens overseas with drones.

The war he has started is a race/class war in America which is just what he wanted.

You have no clue wtf you are talking about.


Neither do you. And what's with this insane unemployment number? It's nowhere near that high. Here's a link.
And race/class war???? Eh? WTF?



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: blargo

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: RomeByFire

400 people were polled. Is it the fault of those polling that only 10 were black?

Yes exactly it is. They did not get a good sample of people. Normal surveys would not even poll that group, they would get another sample that represents the data set they are trying to poll.


I hope everybody remembers the comments like this next time a poll comes out in their favor. I just think it's ironic that if this was a poll for Clinton and 4 out of 6 polled blacks said they'd vote for her, this poll would be legit to the same ones downing it.

Instead, people have searched deep and wide to find a way to basically say "No way, democrats always get the vote of minorities." I know it sucks for y'all that a GOP candidate is pulling in more minority support than normal, but you can blame the current president for this Trump popularity. And and Republicans that hate Trump can blame the useless Congress for Trumps popularity. And supporting him doesn't make you a racist.


You're misunderstanding the poll. Four out of 10 blacks polled chose Trump. The remaining six chose other Republican candidates. 100% of the available choices were Republican candidates. The people polled did not have the option to choose a non-Republican candidate. 100% of of the 10 blacks chose Republicans.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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Oh look, I see that two people have pulled up the same bogus, utterly discredited claim, namely that the US unemployment rate is 42%. Trump claimed this back in September. It's been exposed for what it is - a LIE.
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posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

So, you believe the government? You see, what they do is 'drop off' people after they have been looking for work long enough so they do not appear on there anymore. They give up looking for work.

This is why there are some many on welfare

109 million on welfare and 105 million in the workforce. Read the article you posted. They just do not like the math they are using but it is true.

www.politifact.com...

If you also think there is no race war/class war then you are living in a fantasy.


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posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

So, you believe the government? You see, what they do is 'drop off' people after they have been looking for work long enough so they do not appear on there anymore. They give up looking for work.

This is why there are some many on welfare

109 million on welfare and 105 million in the workforce. Read the article you posted. They just do not like the math they are using but it is true.

www.politifact.com...

If you also think there is no race war/class war then you are living in a fantasy.



Did you actually read the source that you're citing? Because it says the opposite to what you're claiming.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

No one discredited it. The Federal Government just does not do a realistic calculation to make the numbers look good. That way people like yourself can say hey man my government is great and vote for 4 more years of this garbage.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

You have some great opinions. You can dislike something but that does not make it garbage. A place like WND may have some outrageous articles but some are based on fact?


I used to read WND and think it was a legit alternative site up until January 3, 2000 when they were still claiming that a Y2K catastrophe had occurred and the MSM was covering it up. The entire last year of the Clinton administration was full of seemingly well sourced articles about the coup d'etat Clinton was going to stage to stay in power.

It's a BS site.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

It does not matter if a worker collects a subsidy and is included in the number. It is the mere fact they have to. 20 years ago a person did not need 3 part time jobs and a EBT card to survive but that is what it has come to and don't blame Bush or anyone else. 7 years to clean it up and still nothing.



posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

It does not matter if a worker collects a subsidy and is included in the number. It is the mere fact they have to. 20 years ago a person did not need 3 part time jobs and a EBT card to survive but that is what it has come to and don't blame Bush or anyone else. 7 years to clean it up and still nothing.


I think that we must agree to violently disagree on this point. However, I would like to point to my cite about Trump's bullcrap number.



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