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How deep is the partisanship in the USA? What about other countrys?

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posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:25 PM
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Ok help me understand.

You see in the UK we don’t really get that hung up on each other’s politics. We might have a big hearted argument 6 weeks every 5 years on election, then we settle down and all bitch and moan together.
Hell within my Family my dad’s a libdem, mums an Ukip supporter (good lord) and Im a lose supporter of the conservatives.
I have dated girls across the political spectrum and I have friends from UKIP to the Greens (poor souls).

USA I get the impression political differences can be almost violent?
Debates seem to get so heated and so intense. Even to the point of calling each other un-American or threating civil war and killing each other.

Is that just a online thing? Or a big talk or do you really feel like that?
Do you befriend and have mixed social circles of different political opinions?
Or are familys and frendships divided behind partasian lines?

Just a curious questions and one I would find rather sad if you guys were that divided.

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posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

The civil war would happen if they attempted to illegally activate martial law.
WE ARE in many cases just so divided, some are insisting on social changes that some refuse.
I can't really tell but it appears most Americans are more reactionary in that fashion,no doubt a result of our rampant individualistic natures as a culture.
AT this time there is no American group or person I want to kill.
Fist fight sure ,kill, NO.
WE NEED everyone here.
Burt when you get down to it, it IS how we feel about the Constitution.
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posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

One thing I've discovered about Brits.

They like to claim they don't do something they think Americans do.

Especially if it suggests they're saner, calmer, more socially advanced and have a better sense of humor.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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In America political debates can get heated but usually at rallies someone could get hot and try to fight. Online people can easily vent what they're feeling in life.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: Moresby

Especially if it suggests they're saner, calmer, more socially advanced and have a better sense of humor.



Hey we are what we are



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

When I watch parliament, I don't get the impression that there is much ideological disagreement among your politicians and their respective parties with the obvious exception of the extreme minority of classical liberals.

The US may not be much different in policy differences between the two primary parties but, ideologically (perhaps only rhetorically in most cases), they are.

Essentially, you guys argue over what to subsidize rather than whether to. We argue over whether to subsidize but, then we subsidize anyway regardless.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: greencmp

I don’t know about that. our parliament might seem calmer but that’s only because there is a code of etiquette used.

Though my question was more about how dived socially are the US people are.

Could you befriend or marry a solicits?

For me personally political learnings are the last thing I think of when deciding to befriend someone.


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posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
Ok help me understand.

You see in the UK we don’t really get that hung up on each other’s politics. We might have a big hearted argument 6 weeks every 5 years on election, then we settle down and all bitch and moan together.
Hell within my Family my dad’s a libdem, mums an Ukip supporter (good lord) and Im a lose supporter of the conservatives.
I have dated girls across the political spectrum and I have friends from UKIP to the Greens (poor souls).

USA I get the impression political differences can be almost violent?
Debates seem to get so heated and so intense. Even to the point of calling each other un-American or threating civil war and killing each other.

Is that just a online thing? Or a big talk or do you really feel like that?
Do you befriend and have mixed social circles of different political opinions?
Or are familys and frendships divided behind partasian lines?

Just a curious questions and one I would find rather sad if you guys were that divided.


Once a black girl I was seeing asked me when we were talking about politics " you arent a (republican) are you?".

She whispered republican like it was valdimorts name oir somthing.

lol

Then I explained the history of the demcratic parties affiliation to the KKK, and the fact that republicans were the party that freed the slaves and voted the civil rights act into place.

I thought she was going to faint.

Funny stuff really.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
Ok help me understand.

You see in the UK we don’t really get that hung up on each other’s politics. We might have a big hearted argument 6


Have you considered this may be because you spend all your time being hung up on US politics?



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: greencmp

I don’t know about that. our parliament might seem calmer but that’s only because there is a code of etiquette used.

Though my question was more about how dived socially are the US people are.

Could you befriend or marry a solicits?

For me personally political learnings are the last thing I think of when deciding to befriend someone.


I wouldn't call it calmer, I actually love the rambunctiousness of it, especially the constant interruptions, goading and insults. I think we could use more of that in our congress.

I may not be a good example since I come from the north but, I have mostly progressive friends who completely disagree with everything I say.

As a libertarian, all of my friends disagree with me. I probably have more Democrat friends but, my Republican friends are a little less fun to argue with since they are under the illusion that they aren't socialists as well.

Good idea for a thread by the way.


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posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: crazyewok
Ok help me understand.

You see in the UK we don’t really get that hung up on each other’s politics. We might have a big hearted argument 6


Have you considered this may be because you spend all your time being hung up on US politics?


Doesn’t really answer my questions does it? Only deflects.

And ATS being a international forum its going to attract people from other country’s.
Plus seeing as how US politics affects the FREAKING WORLD its only natural to take some interest.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: greencmp

I don’t know about that. our parliament might seem calmer but that’s only because there is a code of etiquette used.

Though my question was more about how dived socially are the US people are.

Could you befriend or marry a solicits?

For me personally political learnings are the last thing I think of when deciding to befriend someone.


I wouldn't call it calmer, I actually love the rambunctiousness of it, especially the constant interruptions, goading and insults. I think we could use more of that in our congress.

I may not be a good example since I come from the north but, I have mostly progressive friends who completely disagree with everything I say.

As a libertarian, all of my friends disagree with me. I probably have more Democrat friends but, my Republican friends are little less fun to argue with since they are under the illusion that aren't socialists as well.

Good idea for a thread by the way.



To be honest I open up to anyone. Be interesting to see what the divides are like in Australia or Canada ect.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: crazyewok
Ok help me understand.

You see in the UK we don’t really get that hung up on each other’s politics. We might have a big hearted argument 6


Have you considered this may be because you spend all your time being hung up on US politics?


Doesn’t really answer my questions does it? Only deflects.

And ATS being a international forum its going to attract people from other country’s.
Plus seeing as how US politics affects the FREAKING WORLD its only natural to take some interest.


Just wait.....it is election year in the US now.....god help us!!!!

Do you remember ATS 4 years ago?

It will be fun to watch if nothing else.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: greencmp

I don’t know about that. our parliament might seem calmer but that’s only because there is a code of etiquette used.

Though my question was more about how dived socially are the US people are.

Could you befriend or marry a solicits?

For me personally political learnings are the last thing I think of when deciding to befriend someone.


Same here, I could care less. Most here in the U.S. don't talk much politics from what I notice. I'm really active in the political forums on this site, but rarely discuss politics with friends. The tough talk you see, well that is easy to do when not face to face with the other person.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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DEFLECTION WARNING!!

Incoming!!!

We're not Partisan. It's the other side whats Partisan!

One day a politician will have an idea that will change us for the better. It'll be so awesome that men, women and kids will do those jumpy hand-clapping skips and smile.

The opposition party and media knee-jerk will beat the idea to death.

No Partisans here :



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: forkedtongue

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: crazyewok
Ok help me understand.

You see in the UK we don’t really get that hung up on each other’s politics. We might have a big hearted argument 6


Have you considered this may be because you spend all your time being hung up on US politics?


Doesn’t really answer my questions does it? Only deflects.

And ATS being a international forum its going to attract people from other country’s.
Plus seeing as how US politics affects the FREAKING WORLD its only natural to take some interest.


Just wait.....it is election year in the US now.....god help us!!!!

Do you remember ATS 4 years ago?

It will be fun to watch if nothing else.


I wasnt here 4 years ago. So this election cycle is new to me.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

I have a very close friend who is pretty liberal and we often butt heads on the issues that I, as a Libertarian, will find myself opposed to politically but I love her regardless and can separate the politics from the person.



edit on 28-12-2015 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: forkedtongue

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: crazyewok
Ok help me understand.

You see in the UK we don’t really get that hung up on each other’s politics. We might have a big hearted argument 6


Have you considered this may be because you spend all your time being hung up on US politics?


Doesn’t really answer my questions does it? Only deflects.

And ATS being a international forum its going to attract people from other country’s.
Plus seeing as how US politics affects the FREAKING WORLD its only natural to take some interest.


Just wait.....it is election year in the US now.....god help us!!!!

Do you remember ATS 4 years ago?

It will be fun to watch if nothing else.


I wasnt here 4 years ago. So this election cycle is new to me.



It will be a mad house in about 6 more months, reaching the fever pitch and still climbing daily until the first tuesday of nevember.......

Then the butthurt and belly aching....

lol

I can hardly wait.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 04:01 PM
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I don't have many conservative friends. Those I do would be described as mildly conservative. There is a reason for that.
Mostly I find staunch conservatives to be selfish pricks, who are both hypocrites and none too bright. I may have to deal with people like that in my professional life... but I absolutely do not have to deal with them in my personal life. So I don't.




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