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I am proud to be a socialist.

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posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 07:10 AM
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a reply to: Thecakeisalie

You forget. Those sportsmen only get paid those ridiculous wages because WE let them.

If the public just switched there idiot boxes off or refused to go to matches you would see their wages drop like a lead balloon and sponsors would abandon them.

In fact most there money comes from the advertisement revenue they bring to the club.
If the public boycotted them or made their displeasure known then again you would see their value drop.

Dont blame the sportsman because the public are idiotic sheep .
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posted on Dec, 31 2015 @ 07:22 AM
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a reply to: nonspecific

Never really understood the need to pigeon hole oneself.

I believe what I believe and treat each subject on its own merits.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 06:31 AM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
I don't have any problem with Socialism. I do have a problem with some people who do not want to do their job and causes other workers to work harder to make up. Once in a while a person feels down and can't work, but I know too many people who slack off and others have to do extra work.

If the employer can fire one of these types in Socialism it is all right. If you don't like the work, find something you do like instead of making your coworkers miserable. Capitalism can work right, but people exploit it too. If you go to work for eight hours, work is work, there should not be people making a hundred grand a year for what they are doing. I like what I read about Norways socialism. It seems to be something that is working.

Healhcare should be socialized. There is no doubt in my mind. When people profit off of others sickness, it can get corrupt.


Perhaps the Socialists should enact a punishment for that laziness.

Unhappy in you government appointed job? Spend your day complaining, and being lazy?

Then welcome to the rock quarry, here's you hammer. Maybe after a year of manual labor you'll appreciate your cushy job you were complaining about.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 06:42 AM
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originally posted by: schuyler


Wholesale socialism will take care of you, and the cost is subversive. It's the road to Hell paved with good intentions. The Devil gives you what you think you want. The drive to socialism is driven by envy and resentment that anyone could have more than you do, so socialism is seen as the great equalizer. Implemented, everyone will be equally rich, but what really happens is that they wind up equally poor. Great Britain is a perfect example. faced with an existential threat during WW II the socialists wasted no time in taking over, stripping the rich of their great houses with the excuse of "It's for the children," and after the war implementing a tax system that that the Exchequer famously said of the rich, "It will make their pips squeak." (a reference to symbols in family Coats of Arms)

Now look at Britain: Empire gone, a shadow of its former self. And ironically, the only reason people go there is to see royalty and the big houses now owned by the National Trust. Without the tourist trade, Great Britain would be a third world country. That's what socialism has done to the formerly great Britain



Can I just say what a load of bull #.

No one got permanently striped of there homes!

World war 2 was a national emergency. Evacuating kids into the country was the right thing to do!
Should they have just stayed in the citys to get bombed?

And the old lords did not get there houses stripped from them.
They have lost them over the decades because Aristocrats are mostly lazy and instead of working, live off old family money.
That doesnt last forever and in a modern economy has depleted quickly. Most these old lords lost there stately homes because they were broke and up to there eye balls in debt.
Thats not socialism at work, thats aristocracy becoming obsolete.

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posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: poncho1982

originally posted by: rickymouse
I don't have any problem with Socialism. I do have a problem with some people who do not want to do their job and causes other workers to work harder to make up. Once in a while a person feels down and can't work, but I know too many people who slack off and others have to do extra work.

If the employer can fire one of these types in Socialism it is all right. If you don't like the work, find something you do like instead of making your coworkers miserable. Capitalism can work right, but people exploit it too. If you go to work for eight hours, work is work, there should not be people making a hundred grand a year for what they are doing. I like what I read about Norways socialism. It seems to be something that is working.

Healhcare should be socialized. There is no doubt in my mind. When people profit off of others sickness, it can get corrupt.


Perhaps the Socialists should enact a punishment for that laziness.

Unhappy in you government appointed job? Spend your day complaining, and being lazy?

Then welcome to the rock quarry, here's you hammer. Maybe after a year of manual labor you'll appreciate your cushy job you were complaining about.


Most people can't comprehend how decent their job is, they have never worked hard labor. I worked construction much of my life, I know hard labor. My back is shot, it decided to calcify from all the damage I sustained in injuries over the years. Injuries that made it painful to bend it. That resulted in it building a lot of calcification, especially in the tendons. So I no longer have the pain from the wear but I have a stiff back and have a hard time bending and twisting.

But why complain, it is now a part of my life and I did like doing the hard work that caused this. I didn't want to sit at a desk or do light work, I wanted to work hard and learn new things. I would not change any of my life, the experiences I had were great. We learn from the mistakes we made or they remain mistakes. Most people gain wisdom as they age and won't look back at the mistakes they made, instead they try to justify their mistakes. I made my share of mistakes and learned from them, but remember, we usually make a mistake at least two times before abandoning the desire to do something. Without this trait you get nowhere, you need to examine what you did wrong which requires admitting to yourself that you screwed up. Then you can learn more.

The young have not experienced this yet. Many older people do not want to admit they screwed up, they want to believe they made the right decision. Laughing about your mistakes with others is important, it shows your kids who hear the stories that it is alright to make a mistake if you learn from it. The practice of older people telling stories you hear as a kid is important to pay attention to. But we have been conditioned to believe in teachers and what the government wants us to believe. I did not like some of the safety measures they have made to the trades, not everyone belongs on a roof, harnesses and ropes probably cause more problems than they solve. It seems that people have gone overboard and want every job to be completely safe so their kids who have not learned to judge risk will not get hurt.

I can see that I am going off topic, the new year has brought out my story telling again, I have to start keeping on topic more.

To sum it up, we need to teach our young that every job is good if you want it to be. It is your attitude that makes a job enjoyable. I would have never wanted to be stuck in one job for my whole life unless I was able to move around in the profession and experience new things. But some people love a job that is routine and to them that is something that makes them happy so there is nothing wrong with that. There is no right or wrong in which profession you desire, but a person needs to experience things before settling down at a lifelong job. They need to go work at BK or some other temporary jobs so they can learn to appreciate a job. Going to college is not good for every kid, they need to experience different professions before settling down. That they they will appreciate a good job when they get one and give it their all.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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It does not work, it is proven not to work, yet there are those who seem to love to give away their freedom on the hope it will work. Leave the United States alone and go where those ideas are practiced. I was killed for freedom and freedom is found on this continent in the American way. We just need to get back to that, and police the greed and corruption which has bloomed in our government.

There are a few country's which have socialism, go live there.

a reply to: nonspecific



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Blindmancc
It does not work, it is proven not to work, yet there are those who seem to love to give away their freedom on the hope it will work. Leave the United States alone and go where those ideas are practiced. I was killed for freedom and freedom is found on this continent in the American way. We just need to get back to that, and police the greed and corruption which has bloomed in our government.

There are a few country's which have socialism, go live there.

a reply to: nonspecific



Did you read this whole thread?

What is your point here?

Please go back to the beggining and start again.

I do not live in the US and therefore do not to go and live somewhere else??

Please read the whole conversation and then comment.



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: Blindmancc
It does not work, it is proven not to work, yet there are those who seem to love to give away their freedom on the hope it will work. Leave the United States alone and go where those ideas are practiced. I was killed for freedom and freedom is found on this continent in the American way. We just need to get back to that, and police the greed and corruption which has bloomed in our government.

There are a few country's which have socialism, go live there.

a reply to: nonspecific


If you were killed for freedom then how are you posting ?




posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Blindmancc
It does not work, it is proven not to work, yet there are those who seem to love to give away their freedom on the hope it will work. Leave the United States alone and go where those ideas are practiced. I was killed for freedom and freedom is found on this continent in the American way. We just need to get back to that, and police the greed and corruption which has bloomed in our government.

There are a few country's which have socialism, go live there.

a reply to: nonspecific


If you were killed for freedom then how are you posting ?



Jedi ghost, obviously!



posted on Jan, 1 2016 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: Blindmancc



I was killed for freedom.....


Hmm.....confusing. You were killed?
How?
Surely that would mean you are dead?



...... and freedom is found on this continent in the American way.


And 'the American way' includes hounding and demonising anyone who has leftist opinions?
McCarthyism all over again?
en.wikipedia.org...



We just need to get back to that, and police the greed and corruption which has bloomed in our government.


Get back to what exactly?
What ideals?
Or what apparent golden era of American history?



edit on 1/1/16 by Freeborn because: clarity



posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: nonspecific
IMHO, the problem is not the system, it is us, HUMANS.

What ever system is used, man will find a way to abuse it. Period.




Well we're not frogs are we?... so in other words the problem is in fact "the system" lol



posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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Killed means; don't have the life I would have had, had I not served in the military (Disability) thus dead for days, but glad I served.

leftest are a threat to our way of life and freedoms, the very freedoms and liberties we once gave American blood to obtain.
Today the left, communist, cry McCarthyism, Racism, or PC violations when challenged.

McCarthyism is to me, the witch hunt that accused tried and abused citizens of the United States for anything they could find or make up. A violation itself, of the constitution which makes us free. Yet, was their active communist during those years infiltrating our higher schools of learning, Did they seek American secrets as well, Yes. I know this from sources my 60 plus years of life have provided.

But opposing a destructive ideal to the freedoms of our nation is not McCarthyism, and I do not apologize, as modern PC would suggest.
If you want our country to get better, if you want good pay, freedom, liberty and what was once called the American dream.....fight with words, discussions and patriotic compassion to restore our country to the values of the past.....and I mean the notable, praiseworthy, righteous values and ideals of the past.
Anyone can find dirt about any nation, but patriots look at the light from which this country was born. Why, because we know to grow as a country, we had to rise from the soil, to seek the sun.
We overcome suppression, we overcome slavery, we overcame tyrants without claiming a prize for their defeat. We overcame much , much more.
Support, don't take apart the dream.
I still believe!




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posted on Jan, 6 2016 @ 10:45 AM
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Thank you a reply to: nonspecific



posted on Jan, 6 2016 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: nonspecific

I like being a Democratic Socialist. It keeps the worrying aspects of Socialism in check (as you mentioned in the OP).



posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 03:27 AM
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a reply to: theMediator





The rest, capitalize the s*** out of it. Because of supply and demand, everytime someone buys a product, that person is VOTING on that product. Bad products don't sell, garbage out.



We should also "capitalize" Govts. 6 month terms should be the maximum they enjoy. In real life you're put on probation for 3-6 mths in a new job. Performance based - results orientated



posted on Jan, 25 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

Hello. I've read the whole thread and the comments and responses you've made. It looks to me that you are not a socialist at all. To a fellow Brit, you look exactly like a Liberal Democrat.

A socialist would prefer - or require - that the State has total control over services and production, but it's clear you don't want that.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
Public education in the US is socialized and it has been an unmitigated disaster, particularly for the poor. All one has to do is look at the VA and medicare to see how socialized medicine works.


If you refer to the common core then it is run by the private sector - Pearson Education (a British company) although it is paid for by the public purse.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: Blindmancc
I was killed for freedom


It would appear that you were not killed at all.



posted on May, 15 2016 @ 07:50 AM
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It would appear that most of the "socialists" on here confuses social responsibility and being charitable with being socialist. Socialism is comunism without money. Capitalism with social responsibility is the only workable system in an unfair world. If it can't work because people are too greedy, socialism will work even less for the same human flaw.




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