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Why Liberals Admire and Romanticize Islam

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posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Nyiah

The inane comparisons are getting a little tiresome.


< smacks forehead >I'm sorry, I didn't realize you're a selective feminist. Carry on then.




posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 05:39 PM
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My 2 cents:
I believe the vast majority of liberals, just like the vast majority of conservatives adopt and sheepishly follow the views of their leaders.
So the question is not why average liberals are so quick to tolerate and defend Islam, but why the Liberal leaders in our society have chosen to do so. The answer is to "follow the money" Liberal political leaders see a potentially huge voting block that if pandered to, will ensure decades of political power and influence for themselves and their party. To achieve this goal they will convince the public that there are 2 very different Islams...peaceful..and radical. Ignoring the fact that the vast majority of Muslims would welcome Sharia law no matter what country they live in. If the conservatives were more politically savvy they would have reached out to Muslims decades ago and highlighted the parts of the liberal agenda that are in conflict with the closely held beliefs of the average Muslim. (abortion, homosexuality, feminism....ect.)

The only thing that will save the conservatives is if radical Muslims commit an act of terrorism so extreme the whole world will rise up to ban the practice of their religion. I can envision several scenarios where this could happen. It won't matter if it is a real event or a false flag... as long as it unites the world against them.


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posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

What free exercise of religion has been prohibited?



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: Nyiah

Meh. nvm.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 05:45 PM
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In almost all cases, practicing any for of religion that oppresses is illegal. ask the mormons about that.

whether or not a religion is oppressive is not decided by interpretation, but what the test actually says. a point i wish people would understand.
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posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 05:56 PM
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Why didn't the OP include the 4th point? Hmm I wonder why.


4. They hate Christianity.

Everything in the world ultimately revolves around Christianity. Christ’s death and resurrection were the single most important events in the history of the universe, and now all people and all nations are finally defined by their acceptance or rejection of that truth. Liberalism rejects the truth, and it’s rejection is central to its existence, just as our acceptance is central to ours.

Liberalism is, then, nothing more than a protest against Christianity. It hates what is Christian and embraces or tolerates whatever is not. With this in mind, it makes sense that the modern liberal attacks Christianity while justifying Islam. First of all, attacking Christianity is literally the sole purpose of liberalism


Jesus was a liberal so he must have hated his own truth.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Thank you for telling us what liberals think. It saves us having to listen to them and think.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: theMediator

first step stop identifying as a certain group and stop proclaiming proudly you are from any said group



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:05 PM
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""Why Liberals Admire and Romanticize Islam""

Tough question.

Probably because the "Left Wing" mind has some unique defective mutations.


Fear Conditioning


Neuropsychological correlates of amygdala activity


Helps explain the mass hysteria panic attack blame assigning attitudes displayed by "Left Wing" thinking mechanisms.




posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
""Why Liberals Admire and Romanticize Islam""

Tough question.

Probably because the "Left Wing" mind has some unique defective mutations.


Fear Conditioning


Neuropsychological correlates of amygdala activity


Helps explain the mass hysteria panic attack blame assigning attitudes displayed by "Left Wing" thinking mechanisms.





Or in other words you have no clue what you're talking about.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm




But we already are talking about Islam.


You keep bringing up Christianity.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: Kali74


You want to move goal posts. I accept. I think I'd rather listen to the larger number of Muslims including Imams and Clerics from Islamic countries and countries with large populations of Muslims as well as in the West who denounce Daesh and extremism as not Islam, not true to the Quran.

You want me to question whether extremists are the ones telling the truth while everyone else lies? I think I'll pass. I don't need to question whether Christian Extremists are the ones telling the truth either. Both are kind of common sense, "duh" questions.


How can I move the goalposts when you did nothing more than refute your own straw man? In other words, you don't even know where the goal is.

Islam is not simply what the nicer muslims say it is. Islam is the faith in the revelations of Muhammad, as codified in the Quran.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Actually, conservatives have been found to have larger amygdala's...



The researchers performed MRI scans on the brains of 90 volunteer students who had indicated their political orientation on a five-point scale ranging from 'very liberal' to 'very conservative'.[5][6] Students who reported more 'conservative' political views tended to have larger amygdalae,[5] a structure in the temporal lobes that performs a primary role in the processing and memory of emotions. In addition, they found clusters in which gray matter volume was significantly associated with conservativism in the left insula and the right entorhinal cortex. [5] There is evidence that conservatives are more sensitive to disgust [7] and the insula is involved in the feeling of disgust [8] On the other hand, more 'liberal' students tended to have a larger volume of grey matter in the anterior cingulate cortex,[5] a structure of the brain associated with monitoring uncertainty and handling conflicting information.[5][6] It is consistent with previous research suggesting that individuals with a larger ACC have a higher capacity to tolerate uncertainty and conflicts, allowing them to accept more liberal views [9] T

Wikipedia

So it really is the conservatives that are conditioned for fear response and have a negativity bias, which I've already pointed out in this thread -- it's a hold over from the Pleistocene era.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope



How can I move the goalposts when you did nothing more than refute your own straw man? In other words, you don't even know where the goal is.


mmmk...



Islam is not simply what the nicer muslims say it is. Islam is the faith in the revelations of Muhammad, as codified in the Quran.


I'm pretty sure that's not some big secret that the 'nicer Muslims' try to hide or deny. Is there a reason that it should be? I haven't ever come across a reason to be scared of anything the Islamic Prophet said nor any reason to be concerned about the Quran.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

Hmmm.

Interesting when academics conflict.



With advances in neuroimaging technology such as MRI, neuroscientists have made significant findings concerning the amygdala in the human brain. A variety of data shows the amygdala has a substantial role in mental states, and is related to many psychological disorders. Some studies have shown children with anxiety disorders tend to have a smaller left amygdala.


A 2003 study found that adult and adolescent bipolar patients tended to have considerably smaller amygdala volumes and somewhat smaller hippocampal volumes.[48] Many studies have focused on the connections between the amygdala and autism.


Individuals with larger amygdalae had larger and more complex social networks. They were also better able to make accurate social judgments about other persons' faces.


plenty of credible sources too



Normal people would think the natural instinct of fear sensing is useful when listening closely to Left Wing propaganda. There's plenty to "fear" from that.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: Kali74




I'm pretty sure that's not some big secret that the 'nicer Muslims' try to hide or deny. Is there a reason that it should be? I haven't ever come across a reason to be scared of anything the Islamic Prophet said nor any reason to be concerned about the Quran.


You should read it.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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Liberals romanticize Islam? OK, then Conservatives romanticize Christianity.

Idiots, making up # again.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Simply reading it isn't enough to understand it. Word for word translation doesn't work.



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: mOjOm




Are you implying that Muslims don't?? Are you implying that All Muslims believe the same as Radical Muslims believe???

Because what I see is that Some Christians respect the rule of law, some don't. Just like some Muslims respect the rule of law, some don't.


I'm saying respecting human law is in the Bible, as told by Jesus. It's not in the Quran. I'm not speaking of individual christians or muslims. As is proven, Islam under the rule of law is quite moderate. When left to its own devices and own laws, it is not.


Yes it is.

We are told to respect the rule of the nation in which we reside.


What Quran have you read, Les?



posted on Dec, 28 2015 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Those studies have nothing to do with political leanings. The studies I mention were carried out specifically to determine what, if any, physical differences in the brain liberals vs. conservatives had. This was preceeded by other studies in which respiration, heart rate, blood pressure and eye movement was tracked when showing subjects scary images. The conservatives reacted much more to scary images, leading other researchers to use fMRI scans to determine the differences in brain structure.

Your own source even says:



In a 2003 study, subjects with borderline personality disorder showed significantly greater left amygdala activity than normal control subjects.Some borderline patients even had difficulties classifying neutral faces or saw them as threatening.[44] Individuals with psychopathy show reduced autonomic responses, relative to comparison individuals, to instructed fear cues.[45] In 2006, researchers observed hyperactivity in the amygdala when patients were shown threatening faces or confronted with frightening situations


A little further down in YOUR SOURCE we find this:



Amygdala size has been correlated with cognitive styles with regard to political thinking.


Which is what I have been talking about. And if we follow the footnote (I know, who does that -- right?!) we come to the study I've been talking about:




Highlights

-Political liberalism and conservatism were correlated with brain structure
-Liberalism was associated with the gray matter volume of anterior cingulate cortex
-Conservatism was associated with increased right amygdala size
-Results offer possible accounts for cognitive styles of liberals and conservatives

cell.com

I don't really think you understand this stuff....
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