UFO's= Master of the Air

I don'w want to muddy the waters with facts, but you posted you would follow up with your relatives security clearance, did you find out ?

I'll be honest, no I haven't spoken to my relative since the post to find out her security clearance. I;m not sure if she'll tell me but I'll certainly ask her.

My wife made an interesting comment. She said that she thinks people will not believe me / us because they are either envious or jealous as to what we saw etc.

When you have seen something with your own eyes, like this, then I can promise everybody out there reading this that my life will NOT be the same again!

If anybody knows of a Stanton duplicate in the UK, I would glady meet up with them and go through a lie detector test!

Originally posted by Fingon
Satan decieves the whole through lies. So these so called UFO's are just one way sway to poeple's faith from GOD and Christ


[edit on 6-1-2005 by Fingon]

that was the most ignorant rant i have ever had the pleasure to laught at.

[edit on 1/15/2005 by hallucinated]

Its hard to beleive you were allowed to see these things without heavy duty security clearance. I'm sure you can understand that. When I visit run of the mill corporate clients in NY City, I have to show photo ID, have my picture taken, and in many cases, be met by an employee of the co. I am visiting to escort me to the elevator.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but if memory serves, you had to go through less to get into groom lake, area 51 ?

Thats what I have trouble with.

As I have said before, I will gladly take a lie detector test at ANY time and they can ask me ANYTHING they like.

Would I want to do that if I was simply making all this up?

And yes, I agree the security should have been tighter considering what we were exposed to but that is how it was once inside OK!

Maybe I should go to CNN or similar and let them know what's going on, they would have the financial backing to help me expose them. I wouldn't tell them my relative's name in case I got her into trouble though!

Why is this unbelievable to some of you? I didn't understand what I was getting into at the time and it happened, that's all I can say!

I try to keep an open mind, I'm not saying you weren't there, and I'm not calling you a liar.

All I've ever read about area 51 is that is is an ultra secure military compound that houses cutting edge military projects, and maybe even alien technology.

You state a relative got you in without much of a problem, and you were allowed to see radical looking craft that are either US craft or alien.
You can't wander around grumman, sikorsky, mcdonell douglas, etc without security badges, but area 51 is an open facility ?

Hard to believe

Thanks for the details...odd craft indeed...basically a giant dull gray pear...

How do you find Stanton, what do you think of him? He seems interested to see me after all the things we have spoken about, descriptions of inside the base etc. He claims that it sounded truthful from his background whatever that meant but he didn't say HE has been there!

Stan is probably one of the most highly regarded ufologists out there. He's very schooled, has worked on secret government projects, and generally is a good investigator. He's even respected by most skeptics. Only he could answer if he's been to Area 51. He would have had the requisite clearance most likely, considering the other projects he's been involved with, but that doesn't mean he was there. To my knowledge though, he's never claimed to have worked or visited there.

minkey53,

hows it going with your relatives security clearance ? any updates ?
any samples from stan we can view ?

I am still waiting for a reply from old Stan about whether he minds me putting extracts of his personal emails to me on this web site etc.

Also, I did speak to my wife's relative (Dana) and it went as follows : -

"You know you told me your security clearance at the base when I was with you, what was it again?"

"Did I really! Well I can't tell you things like that but you know I've been doing this type of work here for 20 years now so let's just say it's high"

"How high then?"

"High, you should know that (laughing)"

So that's all I managed to get out of her this time but as I said, I am going back in May (not long, I can't wait) so email me your details to '[email protected]' and I'll tell you as much as I can as soon as possible.

Anybody out there know of a Stan equivalent here in the UK, somebody who is well known so I can let them know what I know etc.?

Hope that was some use to you Mr Radagast or anybody else for that matter.

well, at least now I can chalk this thread up to BS and get on with my life

I can't believe your attitude.

It's a great shame but then again, you'll find out the truth soon enough!

I'm asking for evidence, verification, credibility. I don't think thats out of line. I have opened my mind to many things since coming here, but I believe a healthy skepticism is still in order when I come here. I'm not saying those things you mention don't exist, I have a problem with how you gained access to the facilty.

Your vague responses have a john titor feel to them.

Whay haven't you been back ? I would be getting about 3 hours sleep if I had seen a pear shaped reverse engineered craft at area 51 with my own eyes. I'd be at my relatives front door begging to be taken back. Does your relative know you have been here posting what you saw ? She may take away your security clearance.

Originally posted by radagast

well, at least now I can chalk this thread up to BS and get on with my life


I don'w want to muddy the waters with facts,

www.abovetopsecret.com...



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