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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: roadgravel
Almost everyone knows if you can get a look at the universe from far enough away, it looks like the face of jesus and it is crying. That is why his face is also seen on toast, tortillas and Cheetos. The small mirrors the large.
Dude. This was so mind blowing Steven Hawking just got up and walked.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: rickymouse
... so, we should have remained sitting in the mud, weaving fetishes from twine and bone to make the monsters stay away?
What's your alternative to science?
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: John333
Except, the only one that believes this is you.
originally posted by: greencmp
originally posted by: John333
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Phatdamage
I believe you are referencing cosmic inflation which could explain both the rapid expansion as well as the relatively uniform distribution of matter in the universe.
redshift and field displacement. field displacement being the dodgiest suggestion of the 2. they believe that space itself is expanding.. like the universe is making "dark matter" in between galaxies and thats whats causing them to spread out.
im going to have to dig up the thread where we had this discussion. cuz eventually some science guy is gonna come in here and that's where the discussion is gonna go to. not that im not a science guy too. im just more balanced in my approach and unbiasness to other avenues of data collection and observation let's say.
Dark energy is the force that seems to push galaxies away from one another (at an accelerating pace) and dark matter appears to hold stars in galactic orbits.
I mean, it's should not be possible for the universe to expand at any accelerating pace.......
it doesn't make sense at all, the only sensible way to think about it, is that it's some kind of a hoax, either a simulation or a hologram or whatever
originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: Gryphon66
What possible benefit is there to pretending that we can figure out how the universe was formed? I just took an online class on this subject to see if I could believe it is possible but the instructor, a notable Physicist with ties to CERN, wouldn't even acknowledge that the big bang was real. He just stated it was a widely accepted theory and that there were other reputable theories out there that were possibly correct but not so widely accepted.
What is acceptable and what is not? Researching how the universe was formed when there are thousands of possibilities and we cannot possibly answer that question from this point in space. Most people who believe in the big bang have been led to believe a lie, the lie being that we know how it was formed. Science can be as much of a scam as some religions are.
Like I said, researching things that benefit human kind and actually help sustain our ecosystem is what is important. Science to help us feed ourselves has gone astray also, corruption and misinformation plagues the field and this is because of profits most times. Science is used against the regular guy more than it benefits us. It is used to control us more than to benefit us.
originally posted by: djz3ro
originally posted by: Signals
It's all a fake, a hologram, the entire "universe." It's the most intricate simulation that will ever be observed. It only exits because we can observe it.
The real question is why are we here and how can we escape it.
Let's say, for arguments sake you're right, what would be the point of such a grand deception? Why not just have a vast expanse of nothing as far as the eye can see, what better way to discourage our race from expanding beyond our little blue ball?
I still like the theory that we, as a race were so war like that other races wantes us destroyed but, rather than commiting genocide on us, we were banished to this backwater galaxy until we learn to stop being aggressive little twats...
How can the universe have uniform temperarure?
originally posted by: Phatdamage
How is it possible for the observable universe to be 92 billion light-years wide while only being 13.7 billion years old?
This is an amazing question, and If the universe began as a singularity and is 13.8 billion years old, how can something be 46 billion light years away? Wouldn't that suggest that the universe expanded at a velocity greater than the speed of light?.......... but, i hear you say "That's impossible, as nothing can travel faster than the speed of light!!"
And if the universe is flat or has negative curvature then the Big Bang doesn't make much sense. How do you get infinite from something undefined? This has always bothered me. The universe to me cannot have negative curvature and defining it as being flat sounds stupid (the earth is flat idea), but if it is a closed universe, then the universe is massively huge. So much so that for what we can see, it looks flat. Like how the earth would look to an ant. A negatively curved universe can easily expand and would give us a limit as to how far back and away we can see before there is a horizon we cannot see past, like a ship on the ocean. (My head actually hurts now)
As technology has evolved, astronomers are able to look back in time to the moments just after the Big Bang. This might seem to imply that the entire universe lies within our view. But the size of the universe depends on a number of things, including its shape and expansion. Just how big is the universe? The truth is, scientists can't put a number on it.
The observable universe
Astronomers have measured the age of the universe to be approximately 13.8 billion years old. Because of the connection between distance and the speed of light, this means they can look at a region of space that lies 13.8 billion light-years away. Like a ship in the empty ocean, astronomers on Earth can turn their telescopes to peer 13.8 billion light-years in every direction, which puts Earth inside of an observable sphere with a radius of 13.8 billion light-years. The word "observable" is key; the sphere limits what scientists can see but not what is there.
But though the sphere appears almost 28 billion light-years in diameter, it is far larger. Scientists know that the universe is expanding. Thus, while scientists might see a spot that lay 13.8 billion light-years from Earth at the time of the Big Bang, the universe has continued to expand over its lifetime. Today, that same spot is 46 billion light-years away, making the diameter of the observable universe a sphere around 92 billion light-years. Centering a sphere on Earth's location in space might seem to put mankind in the center of the universe. However, like that same ship in the ocean, we cannot tell where we lie in the enormous span of the universe. Just because we cannot see land does not mean we are in the center of the ocean; just because we cannot see the edge of the universe does not mean we lie in the center of the universe.
The shape of the universe
The size of the universe depends a great deal on its shape. Scientists have predicted the possibility that the universe might be closed like a sphere, infinite and negatively curved like a saddle, or flat and infinite.
A finite universe has a finite size that can be measured; this would be the case in a closed spherical universe. But an infinite universe has no size by definition.
According to NASA, scientists know that the universe is flat with only about a 0.4 percent margin of error (as of 2013). A flat universe is an infinite universe; thus the size of the universe is infinite.
What do my fellow ATS people, think? do you believe there is any truth in this.....
Will Science prove this correct?