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Students protest transgender invasion of privacy

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posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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Encouraging sexuality that results in the inability to breed future members of the human race is devolution.

Nature proves this by assuring that children can only come of a relationship between a man and a woman.

I realize that science has perverted this process, but the facts of nature bear me out.

One man + one woman = baby(ies)

One man + one man = 0 baby(ies)

One woman + one woman = 0 baby(ies)

As I said, science is the new Frankenstein.




posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: 123143

No, you think our culture is descending into gross depravity and rank hedonism. In this case, I can actually just say "You're wrong."
It's not even a differing perspective, you are factually incorrect, because this is not hedonism.

In the case of depravity, I personally think that your own viewpoint is depraved. You think likewise for me, correct?
Who can say who is truly right? Only God - and no, not any God in particular - has that capability.
I firmly believe your are incorrect because of my own perception.
You firmly believe I am incorrect because of your own.
The difference between us is that I realise this.

But I will say this: Is not the viewpoint that does harm unto others; that calls others wicked and disgusting through no fault of their own, that isolates them and says they are different and aberrant and a disgrace to nature, that their mere existence is a sin... Is that not itself depraved?

You need to look in a mirror.
Don't let it break you.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: nullafides

The females students just need to suck it up. They don't have the same rights as the transgender person.

They lose.

Brave new world, people.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Tell me ... when our children are raised from age 5 to begin thinking of themselves as sexual beings by the sex ed curriculum at school and prepared to think of things in a sexual manner, how do I raise mine to NOT think about things in that away?

When most shows on TV are very plain about what it is that boys and girls do and how they think about and behave with and toward one another, how do I teach mine to buck that trend without simply keeping him away from EVERY TV 24/7 and more or less becoming the kind of weird zealot I am told I shouldn't be?

When every advertisement sells things with hypersexualized examples of men and women, how do you combat that?

This is entrenched in society at large. Without removing myself and my family from society at large, the idea that I can simply raise my child completely counter culture and remove that impulse to view girls as sexual beings is ludicrous. For one thing, it will be his biological nature to view them that way no matter what.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: nullafides

The females students just need to suck it up. They don't have the same rights as the transgender person.

They lose.

Brave new world, people.


The needs of the few or the one outweigh the needs of the many ... unless we are talking about socialism, and then its' the other way around.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You may spew that bilge as far and as wide as you like. This IS the internet.

You may even BELIEVE it.

BUT, don't expect to bully your way into the minds of other people as you are trying to do with me.

The fact that you have an opinion does not make you right.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Stop it with your hyperbole. This is not a question of rights, it is a question of discrimination and culture.

What right of theirs differs from the transgender person's, pray tell?



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Don't complain. Don't comment. Don't have a different opinion.

Obey.
Just go along.
Follow the herd.

Forget raising your children, the state does that. Don't try to impart your values, ethics, morals.

The state has a program for that.

If you say anything different, then you will be labeled a homophobe and your job, future, security will be at stake.

Just shut the hell up and obey.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: DBCowboy

Stop it with your hyperbole. This is not a question of rights, it is a question of discrimination and culture.

What right of theirs differs from the transgender person's, pray tell?


If their rights are in conflict with anothers rights, then who gets to choose the winner?



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: DBCowboy

Stop it with your hyperbole. This is not a question of rights, it is a question of discrimination and culture.

What right of theirs differs from the transgender person's, pray tell?


If their rights are equal to the rights of the trans person, then why are they having their right to feel comfortable and safe be violated in favor of accommodating that same right for the trans person?

Say you have 200 kids. 100 girls, 100 boys, but one of those boys is a trans person. So that trans person is accommodated by being offered a private facility, but they decline it claiming their right to feel safe and comfortable is being violated.

So you have 100 girls + 1 trans person in the one room and 99 boys on the other. The boys are fine and don't care one way or the other, the trans person is happy (?), but the 100 girls are now at risk of having their right to be safe and comfortable violated by having a physical male in their locker room with them.

As this report shows, not all of those girls are happy with the idea ... maybe a good many of them. So in the end, we have MORE kids unhappy with their right to be safe and comfortable violated than we had when we had 1 trans person in a private accommodation.

Tell me how that calculus works out to social justice.

And when you get done explaining how that math works and preserves EVERYONE'S rights equally. Explain to me where we get a "RIGHT" to be safe and comfortable. That ought to be your next amazing trick.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:44 PM
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@Ketsuko

The point I am making is that this issue is cultural, not genetic. You seem to be agreeing with me. I was making a stylized point. To actually raise a child in the manner I described would be extremely difficult, though possible. You'd need a specialised facility, and it would ultimately be considered unethical, however.

a reply to: 123143

I don't need to believe it. It just needs to be right.

That's exactly what I've been saying. Try to look in the mirror. Try to imagine what you put people through when you call them freaks, disgusting, abberant sins against nature. That you curse their existence. Think, then feel, that pain of theirs. Maybe you'll understand. Do you?



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

I'm telling you that what you want, even if it would be possible, is currently impossible because our culture sends impossibly mixed signals.

You all want what you want when you want it and can't figure out why it is that you can't simply will away the results of what you have done.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Stop raising your children to think differently.

If all children are raised the same, then they won't feel the need for privacy.

Just stop raising your children!!!!



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You are operating on an emotional level. Please apply logic.

A boy who thinks he's a girl but still has a penis does not belong in the girls' locker room.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You didn't actually tell me. You dodged the question.

Tell. Me. Where. Their. Rights. Differ. Spell it out for me. KISS.

@Ketsuko:


If their rights are equal to the rights of the trans person, then why are they having their right to feel comfortable and safe be violated in favor of accommodating that same right for the trans person?


For me to feel safe and comfortable, it is necessary for me to jam a knife into the heart of every person I come across.


Say you have 200 kids. 100 girls, 100 boys, but one of those boys is a trans person. So that trans person is accommodated by being offered a private facility, but they decline it claiming their right to feel safe and comfortable is being violated.


Is this happening?
Where?
Why?
Ask yourself that question. Why is this happening?
It's not the fault of the kids. It's the fault of society.



So you have 100 girls + 1 trans person in the one room and 99 boys on the other. The boys are fine and don't care one way or the other, the trans person is happy (?), but the 100 girls are now at risk of having their right to be safe and comfortable violated by having a physical male in their locker room with them.


I'm male, but I also feel terrible changing in a room with other males.
What about my rights?



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You may have a third separate locker room.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: 123143
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You are operating on an emotional level. Please apply logic.

A boy who thinks he's a girl but still has a penis does not belong in the girls' locker room.


Look at the "Enlightened People" that are so tolerant....Not

These people are phonies. The will only attack in packs. They are cowards.

Hang in there...Everybody gets a trophy. 🏆



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:57 PM
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originally posted by: 123143

A boy who thinks he's a girl but still has a penis does not belong in the girls' locker room.

Why this isn't considered mental illness is purely political. In any context outside a civil rights one, that's exactly what it would be, and what it had been until it was framed in civil rights language.

A boy who thinks he's a girl has serious mental problems and needs immediate professional help from people who haven't been brainwashed to think it's ok for him to be in this condition.

And should be nowhere near a girl's locker room.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Some teenaged girls think their privacy rights are being violated.

The government thinks that a transgendered person has the right to impose on their rights.

The government has the ultimate say.

Ergo; the girls are wrong because they were raised incorrectly. They and their parents need to be reeducated so that they can think in a government-approved manner.



posted on Dec, 25 2015 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Oh no, you don't get to shift the goals posts.

You were the one who said the rights of a trans person are equal to the rights of any other person. In this case, the needs of the trans person are being elevated.

Show me how they are not.

And you don't get to simply blame the culture. That is like saying it's everyone else's fault if they feel upset. You are as bad as anyone who looks at someone who commits murder and blames society for it. He wouldn't have murdered if society hadn't made him do it.

You wouldn't feel uncomfortable if society didn't make you feel it.

How about this? The trans person wouldn't feel out of place if society didn't make them feel that way.

That argument can also work two ways.

So get back to the original scenario and tell me how the "rights" of the trans person being elevated above the "rights" of the girls makes for social justice where the "rights" of all are treated the same?







 
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