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Any person possessing critical thinking skills can understand that a magnificently powerful god would have no incentive, interest, or even the slightest inclination to inflict pain and suffering on dead people. Hell makes no sense and it represents an ill-fated and entirely avoidable error in the foundation of Christianity.
Christianity credits what you believe far above what you do. This idea has caused much misery and suffering over the course of the past two millennia. The notion that what you believe can erase your bad deeds is a very attractive idea to someone who wants to take liberties with the lives and property of other people.
How different would the world be if Christianity instead declared that your ultimate reward is based on your actions, what you do, how you conduct your life, how much you help others, etc. instead of offering this exceptionally generous “get out of jail free” card? What if it said all of the good you do is balanced against the bad, and based on that comparison, you will be judged?
I do see some of the difficulty between you and me. You hate some of the letters of the NT and mostly those of Paul. You hate Paul. That is your problem. You refuse to accept that Saul/Paul is loved and revered by Jesus. But you are not alone in this mindset. Most of what I read on ATS is of the same mindset.
That is why Revelat6ion 21:8 is not understood by most. That is why I have tried to open the discussion in regards to Revelation 21:8 -- Chester John has tried to reason that faith is the answer and not works but he used Saul/Paul as his source. The Scriptures do teach that you will not enter the kingdom of heaven without faith. It cannot be done with works alone. You can be the best guy in town without the faith in Jesus Christ and you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Then again you can be an outlaw and thief and die on the tree beside the Christ and with faith alone you could enter the kingdom of heaven. Not only could this happen but it did happen. Now don't ask for proof because we are talking about faith are we not?
All Chester John has said that Paul taught us is true. But it is only true if one has the faith that it is true. If you do accept that this is not true then by your lack of faith it is not true to you. But by faith it is true to myself and Chester John. Proof does not enter into faith. They are opposites in this understanding.
Well, Revelation has no real importance from my perspective on scripture...
See people who pick and choose what they believe about what the bible says really don't believe any of it, not even love
See people who pick and choose what they believe about what the bible says really don't believe any of it, not even love.
The Point is that GOD preserved his words into one English version, not man in a plethora of versions.
Whu....WHY would a "perfect God" do that? The "English" version?
Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.