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USA DHS stops two British Muslim brothers and nine children from going to Disneyland

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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: UnBreakable

Na Disney land Paris sucks.

Been there, not worth your money.


Ok, I was under the impression that the Disney parks were pretty much the same all over. Can't blame them then for wanting to try to come here, if, in fact, the only reason was to visit Disneyland.




posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

JFYI, the TSA does not make me feel safer.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: UnBreakable

Na Disney land Paris sucks.

Been there, not worth your money.


Ok, I was under the impression that the Disney parks were pretty much the same all over. Can't blame them then for wanting to try to come here, if, in fact, the only reason was to visit Disneyland.


I just come over there to eat your steaks and burgers



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: UnBreakable

Na Disney land Paris sucks.

Been there, not worth your money.


Ok, I was under the impression that the Disney parks were pretty much the same all over. Can't blame them then for wanting to try to come here, if, in fact, the only reason was to visit Disneyland.


I just come over there to eat your steaks and burgers


Believe me, you'd be better off sticking with your own food. Our steaks and burgers are filled with growth hormones and antibiotics. They only look appetizing.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 11:07 AM
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Is well known that extremist terrorist use jihadist children for nefarious purposes, something that we in the US can not even think that such a thing is done.

I feel that stopping all these males until they are screened is the best thing to do if the authorities feels that something is not right.

After they clear them, they are welcome to Disney in my books and wish them a great Disney experience.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:35 PM
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Jesus! Thank God! Keep those friggin British outta here!!!



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
So now you have to have a woman with you if you are traveling with kids? Silly Muslims men are totally incapable of taking care of children now. Obvious stereotyping of people and the dumbed down public will say great job. This says it all right here.


If Israel had reason to detain your brother, I suspect the good men from USA Homeland Security also had their reasons. They make their policy absolutely clear; no one is automatically admissible to the USA.

Apparently the idiot that wrote this article is too stupid to know that Israel locks people up just for being Muslim just ask the thousands of innocent Palestinians that they have detained. Only the stupid takes Israel at their word.


More of the usual spin. Avoid the reasoning, move it to Israel. Damn, your predictable.

Oh, by the way, Canada, with it's new 'Socialist P.M. has banned single males from entering Canada via the refugee program.

The will of Allah...

edit on 24-12-2015 by nwtrucker because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: UnBreakable

Muslims board planes every day. If you are stopped it's for a reason.

Yeah it's called being Arabic.


They were not Arabic they were British.

And it come out the son was accessing extrimist pages on Facebook.

Hell no it was the evil Jews.

Oh wait sanity prevails again.

Only complaint I have now is the USA had a duty to inform our authorities as soon as they found out so we could have sent police or social workers round to talk to the family about the internet activity of their son so we could work out if he is being radicalised and take action early.


And the bleeding hearts would call that early action racist, profiling, Islamaphobic, restriction of rights, etc. You would have to wait until the son was radicalized and killed somebody first, then question why no preemptive action was taken and have the MSM lambaste the authorities for not taking action. That's how it works. Get it?


Yes, I get what pre-crime decisions are. A little scary.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: UnBreakable

Muslims board planes every day. If you are stopped it's for a reason.

Yeah it's called being Arabic.


They were not Arabic they were British.

And it come out the son was accessing extrimist pages on Facebook.

Hell no it was the evil Jews.

Oh wait sanity prevails again.

Only complaint I have now is the USA had a duty to inform our authorities as soon as they found out so we could have sent police or social workers round to talk to the family about the internet activity of their son so we could work out if he is being radicalised and take action early.


And the bleeding hearts would call that early action racist, profiling, Islamaphobic, restriction of rights, etc. You would have to wait until the son was radicalized and killed somebody first, then question why no preemptive action was taken and have the MSM lambaste the authorities for not taking action. That's how it works. Get it?


Yes, I get what pre-crime decisions are. A little scary.

Is investigating someone pledging allegiance to Al-Quaeda now a pre-crime? We kind of know what they do.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: reldra

No one is arresting or charging the kid for anything.

He will just get a policeman or social worker come round for a chat to see why he has gone to such websites and try and work with the father.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

That is invading a terrorists space, just back off!



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: UnBreakable

They can go to the one in Japan....



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

they were going to visit relatives in california as well as going to disneyland



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: research100


they were going to visit relatives in california as well as going to disneyland


I could say they could all go to Paris Disneyland but I think the French are a little tight too.

All seriousness it is stupid thing to do, and that is why many in congress are trying to keep it to a X number of countries. On another note it is hard to figure out who is really to blame. Kind of reminds me of the Harvard Black kid who dressed up as a gang member and then got treated as a gang member and called it racist. Who is to blame the people that treated him wrong or the gang members who created the bad image?



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

I honestly think the blame lays our end with a stupid teenager.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: UnBreakable

Remember when America was the land of the free, home of the brave, where you are innocent until proven guilty?

Yeah. Right.

Katie Hopkins, btw, is probably the most hated right-wing "pundit" in the UK. She spews controversial crap for the sake of getting herself headlines. There is a certain type of person who buys into her stuff, and I can't describe them within the T&C of the board.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: neformore

Thats doesn't apply at border control. The US rightfully have the right (as we do) to refuse entryto anyone for any reason.
Also they are non US citizens on non US soil.


If this was a criminal case and they had been arrested then yes, innocent until proven guilty.

But this is a border control issue.
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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

Being Arabic and Muslim SHOULD be enough to get you barred entry into the US.

Nidal Hassan, Tsarnaev brothers, 9/11 attackers, San Bernadino shooters, first World Trade Center bombers(in the 90s), Paris attackers, Madrid attackers, London bombers. The list goes on.

There's a lot of reasons to bar Middle Eastern Muslim looking people from entering your country.

Gents, the color blind PC crowd is too afraid to take a tough stance on Islam. That means it's up to you. Be brave, they're gonna call you Islamophobic and racist.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: UnBreakable

Remember when America was the land of the free, home of the brave, where you are innocent until proven guilty?

Yeah. Right.

Katie Hopkins, btw, is probably the most hated right-wing "pundit" in the UK. She spews controversial crap for the sake of getting herself headlines. There is a certain type of person who buys into her stuff, and I can't describe them within the T&C of the board.


Well, unfortunately, I'm probably the certain type of person you are referring to. If my motives are perceived as racist and bigoted, then so be it. I'm more concerned about self preservation and the safety of the people I care about than giving the benefit of the doubt to people for the sake of being politically correct. The US lets a quarter of a million Muslim migrants in each year, you never hear about that, only bitching from the left that two brothers and nine kids who weren't allowed to come to Disneyland. There is a reason for that.

"Federal Data: U.S. Annually Admits Quarter Of A Million Muslim Migrants"
www.breitbart.com...



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 06:42 PM
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There is a saying, better prevention than cure. I agree with this in this situation. It is pretty simple really, if the security services believed that there was something suspicious regarding a large group I think they did the right thing. It is up to them to protect their society and sadly, nowadays, trust is something that is severely lacking in society in general. I would not say that the lack of trust is not merited either, but it is what it is.

At the end of the day it is a question of balance isn't it? What weighs heavier, somebody losing a holiday or people's lives. I am in no way saying that these people were terrorists, but the fact is that the security services considered them to be a potential risk.

I really don't believe that at a fundamental level, American security services want bad things for their brothers, sisters, mothers fathers and friends and family, I just don't.







 
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