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Wiretapping reveals communication between Turkish officers and ISIL

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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:28 AM
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www.todayszaman.com...


“It emerged that the telephone communications some officers made with ISIL militants were wiretapped,” the Cumhuriyet daily said, describing the officers' contact with ISIL members as scandalous.

The wiretapping reportedly took place last year as part of an investigation conducted by the Ankara Chief Prosecutor's Office.
The investigation file was handed over on March 15 this year to the military prosecutor's office of the Gaziantep 5th Armored Brigade Command as the prosecutor's office deemed the issue outside of its jurisdiction, according to the report.

An investigation was launched by public prosecutor Derda Gökmen into the 27 suspects, some of whom are in Syria, the report said.
According to the daily's report, the big scandal came out into the open after the investigation was opened by the Ankara Chief Prosecutor's Office upon the reports of relatives of six Turkish citizens stating that they were missing and believing them to have joined the ranks of ISIL.


This is pretty big! Turkish officers in contact with IS and setting up meetings for Turks who want to join their ranks! From buying IS's oil to Turkish officers sending recruits to them, what's next?! Turkey is a cesspool of terrorism and one of our biggest allies in the Middle East! These Middle Eastern conflicts just continue to get more ridiculous as time goes on. What the hell are we doing over there?


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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:33 AM
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a reply to: Swills

Remember when the Turks let all those Kurds get slaughtered by ISIL miles away from the border? g

Turkey is going through a serious nationalist movement. They want the glory of the old Ottoman empire.
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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:46 AM
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Turks have no love for Kurds. They consider them terrorists as well. Funny enough, everyone else besides terrorists and Turkey considers them allies. Derp!

F these Middle Eastern conflicts!



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 01:01 AM
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a reply to: Swills

What the hell are we doing over there?

Unfortunately, for the Middle Eastern nations allied against the US, Americas future oil and gas is under their dirt, so, you know, that's what the US and her allies are doing over there, despite the propaganda telling the people of the world that it is to bring freedom and democracy.

Unless of course, freedom means oil and democracy means gas, then of course it is about freedom and democracy.

That's why Halliburton got a military escort into Iraq in 03.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 01:02 AM
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" What the hell are we doing over there?"

Appeasing the war hawks and their owners so they won't rock to boat too much. Especially during elections. God protect our soldiers over there.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 01:39 AM
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originally posted by: Swills
www.todayszaman.com...


“It emerged that the telephone communications some officers made with ISIL militants were wiretapped,” the Cumhuriyet daily said, describing the officers' contact with ISIL members as scandalous.

The wiretapping reportedly took place last year as part of an investigation conducted by the Ankara Chief Prosecutor's Office.
The investigation file was handed over on March 15 this year to the military prosecutor's office of the Gaziantep 5th Armored Brigade Command as the prosecutor's office deemed the issue outside of its jurisdiction, according to the report.

An investigation was launched by public prosecutor Derda Gökmen into the 27 suspects, some of whom are in Syria, the report said.
According to the daily's report, the big scandal came out into the open after the investigation was opened by the Ankara Chief Prosecutor's Office upon the reports of relatives of six Turkish citizens stating that they were missing and believing them to have joined the ranks of ISIL.


This is pretty big! Turkish officers in contact with IS and setting up meetings for Turks who want to join their ranks! From buying IS's oil to Turkish officers sending recruits to them, what's next?! Turkey is a cesspool of terrorism and one of our biggest allies in the Middle East! These Middle Eastern conflicts just continue to get more ridiculous as time goes on. What the hell are we doing over there?



It looks like Turkish prosecutors handled it?



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 02:27 AM
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To be honest, the supposed connection hinted at is not as worrying as the fact that Turkey wants to join the EU.

Since Turkey is actively working against democracy, that would be bad.
Since Turkey seems to be working toward being an Islamic state, that would be bad.
Since EU has this Schengen agreement with Open Borders, that would be extra bad.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 02:52 AM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft

Unless of course, freedom means oil and democracy means gas, then of course it is about freedom and democracy.

That's why Halliburton got a military escort into Iraq in 03.


I do believe that you have hit the nail on the head there my friend.

We live in the age of Orwellian double-speak being the norm. War means peace and peace means war.

The scum known to the world as the banksters and their cartel of multinational corporations are implementing their nefarious game plans. They work through NGO's and topple governments that stand in their way.

As far as the OP, this is no surprise. Turkey has been used by NATO as their base of operations for a little thing called Operation Gladio B. Which is the operation they went to when operation Gladio got exposed, you know using fascists and neo-nazis to spread terror throughout Europe. Gladio B takes uses "radical islam" to work on the Caucasus and Middle East, right on over to Eurasia.

See my latest thread here for more info on Gladio B

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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 03:27 AM
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man are these guys worse than the ISI or what?? I thought them helping Taliban and Osama was bad. haha, spell check wants to correct it to Obama lol.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 04:01 AM
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originally posted by: HolgerTheDane2
To be honest, the supposed connection hinted at is not as worrying as the fact that Turkey wants to join the EU.

Since Turkey is actively working against democracy, that would be bad.
Since Turkey seems to be working toward being an Islamic state, that would be bad.
Since EU has this Schengen agreement with Open Borders, that would be extra bad.



I love it! Was, rinse, repeat.

I'll just sit back in my chair and watch how the dogs savagely attack the scraps given to them by their masters.

So Turkey has been secretly working with ISIS this whole time and the west intelligence agencies had no idea..... *rolls eyes*

Every single western nation with their handin the ME cookie jar knows full well and are complicit in just about everything Turkey is doing. To call Turkey the fall guy would be an understatement.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 05:03 AM
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Surprise surprise........ not.

Gobble gobble stan is proving Russian intelligence right unfortunately.

This war in Syria is more about neighbours trying to interfere with one another's affairs than most first realised. Assad might be the best of leaders, but he kept minorities relatively safe.

Now the Islamists want to destroy all of that in the name of Allah and guess what religion Turkey is? Yep, Islamic.....



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 05:58 AM
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Probably very few on this sight do not think Turkey has been in some sort of collusion with ISIS and any other radical they can get to serve their purposes.. However besides all that the current leader's days are numbered. Time for a new puppet.
youtu.be...



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 07:40 AM
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Turkey doesn't seem to be any different from Pakistan. They deal with both sides, To the USA, "Oh yes, we know who the terrorists are, just give us a few million and we'll keep an eye of them. It's very hard to do up in those mountains, but we can do it with enough resources". To the other lot "Oh yes, we know where the Americans keep their bases, and their patrol routes. Just give us a few million and we'll keep them out of your way. It's very hard to do up in those mountains, but we can do it with enough resources".



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 08:36 AM
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Damage control propaganda in the wake of Turkey supporting Syrian terrorists and buying stolen oil on the sly.


The investigation file was handed over on March 15 this year to the military prosecutor's office of the Gaziantep 5th Armored Brigade Command as the prosecutor's office deemed the issue outside of its jurisdiction, according to the report.

Yah, the bigger NATO jurisdiction. Just as long as the investigation doesn't lead there.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate


Every single western nation with their handin the ME cookie jar knows full well and are complicit in just about everything Turkey is doing. To call Turkey the fall guy would be an understatement.

Thats what proxy war is so valuable. It hides in plain site.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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Not the first time Turkey got caught with their pants down by a wiretap


Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's ban of YouTube occurred after a conversation was leaked between Head of Turkish Intelligence Hakan Fidan and Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu that he wanted removed from the video-sharing website.

The leaked call details Erdogan's thoughts that an attack on Syria "must be seen as an opportunity for us [Turkey]".


www.ibtimes.co.uk...


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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 04:27 PM
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You do realize you're using a Western, Scandinavia based media called "Zaman" owned by Fethullah Gülen, a leader of a sect that has in the past tried to infiltrate the Turkish state and tried to coup it?



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 04:32 PM
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Sounds like the people of Turkey need to clean house. Starting with their president and some of their military leaders.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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Not terribly familiar with the source but I've read it in the past. So no, I don't realize what it is you're saying and I'm not sure you do either.

en.wikipedia.org...

Today's Zaman is an English-language daily based in Turkey. Established on January 16, 2007, as the English-language edition of the Turkish daily Zaman, Today's Zaman includes domestic and international coverage, and regularly publishes topical supplements. Its contributors include cartoonist Cem Kızıltuğ.

Today's Zaman, along with its parent Turkish-language paper Zaman, is operated by followers of the religious Gülen movement,[1][2] but Fethullah Gülen himself is not the owner.[3]This contrasts with its English-language competitors, the center-left Hürriyet Daily News and the Daily Sabah, which is aligned politically with the Justice and Development Party of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.


Fethullah Gülen



Muhammed Fethullah Gülen (born 27 April 1941) is a Turkish preacher,[5] former imam,[5][6] and writer.[7] He is the founder of the Gülen movement (known as Hizmet meaning service in Turkish). He currently lives in self-imposed exile in the United States, residing in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania.[8][9][10]


Influence in Turkish society and politics


The Gülen movement, also known as Hizmet or Jamaat, has millions of followers in Turkey, as well as many more abroad. Beyond the schools established by Gülen's followers, it is believed that many Gülenists hold positions of power in Turkey's police forces and judiciary.[59][60] Turkish and foreign analysts believe Gülen also has sympathizers in the Turkish parliament and that his movement controls the widely-read Islamic conservative Zaman newspaper, the private Bank Asya bank, the Samanyolu TV television station, and many other media and business organizations, including the Turkish Confederation of Businessmen and Industrialists (TUSKON).[61] In March 2011, the Turkish government arrested the investigative journalist Ahmet Şık and seized and banned his book The Imam's Army, the culmination of Şık's investigation into Gülen and the Gülen movement.[62]
In 2005, a man affiliated with the Gülen movement approached then-U.S. Ambassador to Turkey Eric S. Edelman during a party in Istanbul and handed him an envelope containing a document supposedly detailing plans for an imminent coup against the government by the Turkish military. However, the documents were soon found to be forgeries.[60] Gülen affiliates claim the movement is "civic" in nature and that it does not have political aspirations.[61]



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 04:47 PM
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what exactly is so wrong about protecting our oil supply? why is it so crazy that we demand the oil our society needs?

when you listen to dictators in the middle east the first thing they use to threaten us is to cut off our oil supply. why? because they now they can cripple our economy if they cut us off? so i ask again, what if so wrong about fighting for a very necessary resource that is key to our economy? if we replaced the word oil for food, people would realize that the middle east is necessary to fight for, at least until we can tech up and abandon oil. but thats not going to happen for some time. then the middle east will be swimming in a useless liquid.

on topic:
borders are meaningless when you have a philosophy that brings you together.

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