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Gnosticism, not only is it a trap, it's also a dead end just like all other religions
So the trinity was not derived from scripture but was conceived in philosophy. Greek philosophers were greatly influenced by Plato (427-347 BC) who was considered the greatest of all Greek philosophers. Plato was ingrained with Trinitarian thought and knew that all the ancient religions had triad deities, and so he desired to come up with a better definition to define God above all the deities of Greek mythology. Plato's definition of God was, (1) The “first God,” who was the Supreme Being in the universe; (2) the “second God,” whom Plato described as the “soul of the universe”; and (3) the “third God,” defined as the “spirit.” The Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria (15 BC-AD 50) who followed Greek philosophy was influenced by Plato's version and saw God as, (1) Father, who created all things (Philo named him “the Demiurge”), (2) Mother, who was Knowledge the Maker possessed and (3) the Beloved Son was the world. Supposedly the union of demiurge and knowledge produced man's world. This esoteric type of thinking is what led to the birth and development of the trinity.
Notice how these quotes document a belief in a divine trinity in many regions and religions of the ancient world and that the origin of the conception is entirely pagan
The most likely perps were Julius Caesar, Muslim Khalif Omar, or the Catholic church.
King Saul was a prophet and he lied and disobeyed.
King David was a Prophet and he committed Adultery.
King Solomon was a prophet took 300 wives and had 1000 concubines and worshipped Idols
Jonah was a prophet a disobeyed God.
I would say that you were wrong and the Bible was right.
Especially because God promised to keep his word to every generation Psalm 12:6,7.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
Just goes to show that any wicked man can apply to be a prophet of jehovah, the more evil the better, after all they follow jehovah, the petty jealous mountain god, the demiurge.
originally posted by: awareness10
You're most likely dead on about that. I've read a few books about Rivera, a Jesuit priest and his 50 yrs trapped in the catholic church, he speaks of many secrets within the walls of the Vatican including Islam, that was years ago now.
How the Vatican created Islam
Ham is Noah's youngest son ( or grandson?) Canaan is Ham's son. Noah (in Genesis 9:20) cursed Canaan for Ham seeing his father (Noah) naked and telling his brothers Shem and Japhet who then walked in backward and covered his nakedness and told Noah what Ham did. Why Curse Ham's son (Canaan) for Ham's wrongdoing? And what was Ham's wrongdoing anyway?
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Plantagenet
There is no specific answer as not enough information is available on the subject. These are the most popular speculations:
Noah refused to curse his son since God had already blessed Ham in Genesis 9:1.
Noah could see that Canaan also possessed the carnal and materialistic nature of Ham, and he realized it would only get worse in the coming generations. Perhaps this is why the phrase “Ham the father of Canaan” was used in Genesis 9:22, since Canaan was very much his father’s son.
Canaan was not only the father of the Canaanites, but also of the Amorites, Jebusites, Sidonians and the Phoenicians. All of these peoples would at some period in the future wage war against the descendants of Shem and (to a lesser extent) Japheth, and would also become grossly idolatrous. Noah may have been prophetically denouncing this departure from faith in the true and living God.
The Other possible reasons:
While Noah and his sons were 100% human, we are not told the same about the wives of his 3 sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth. What is clear is that one or more of these women were carrying the Nephilim gene. This is the source of the post-flood Nephilim.
From the first time Ham is introduced, he is described as “the father of Canaan.” Notice none of his brothers get any similar distinction. It is possible that Canaan carried the Nephilim gene. If Ham were wicked and not a follower of God, the odds of him taking a wife who was a part of the Nephilim hybrid pagan culture was much higher.