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Why did Noah Curse his Son Ham's Son Canaan?

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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 02:17 AM
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One last question one might ask is what are the consequences.
The answer is faith which the Bible does not teach.
For example one of my favourite sentences in the Bible is simply that. A mere sentence. Not a verse which is how the Bible should be read.

Don't do anything, simply watch. A sentence which is a lie yet reveals faith.
What is faith is answered with a question.
Who am I is the answer.
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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 02:54 AM
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The question should be what is the consequence of switching the internet.
Example as a question also. Since when does the Nostradamus quatrains have all those will words which by the way Nostradamus is meant to be read in past tense because that is what they are in now.
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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 03:31 AM
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Another example of what is happening. There is a vehicle parked locally with a hundred thousand dollars under the drivers seat creating an attraction while the finder then has sex with three women claiming to be who they are not. Had the decision been made to take the cash which of course has been denied the vehicle would then have been towed in an attempt to make me hang myself. They have no idea who they are messing with.
Look at the titles to the threads from the Just Curious thread on. Either purposely wrote to add to the attraction with the lie or controlled to.
Should there dare be any interest in doubting faith the vehicle is a black Lexus parked in the parking lot of the MRI building on what is thought to be GRANITE avenue. Likely to be locked now preparing for the backup plan. Possibly not though.
One last question would probably be how are those facts known.
Another murder victim recently was controlled when given the vehicle without knowledge of the same amount of cash under the seat which was written about as my gift from the victim to be found which was. Then the finder was murdered. Then a hint was made the cash wasn't seen which of course is a lie also.
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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 04:55 AM
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A reminder.
BEWARE THE BEARERS OF FALSE GIFTS AND THEIR BROKEN PROMISES
MUCH PAIN BUT STILL TIME
WE OPOSE DECEPTION
CONDUIT CLOSING
The face with the frame was added later. Another lie.
The warning has expired.
The mispelling is questionable.
PAIN is likely a lie also. LOVE makes more sense considering the difference between a warning to a threat with the warning not coming from the threat.
BEARERS is also a lie.
BEARER.
Lots of facts revealed by the lie of PAIN with the S such as the flag.
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Seems the writer of the Benny thread to create a reaction thinks it ends with death. They have no idea.
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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 05:03 AM
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a reply to: Murgatroid

You're most likely dead on about that. I've read a few books about Rivera, a jesuit priest and his 50 yrs trapped in the catholic church, he speaks of many secrets within the walls of the vatican including islam, that was years ago now.


www.redicecreations.com... m.html
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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Poppe

Many of us Who Believe upon Jesus Christ, take the Bible literally except where the literal sense makes no sense. There is one named Allegory found in Scriptures and it says it is an Allegory.

There are a few types of literature found in the Bible Historical Narrative, Prophecy, Poetry, Epistles (letters), Gospels and Wisdom.

When studying the Bible you should always use the inductive method as it allows you to utilize the details of the text (the particulars) to arrive at the author's intended meaning (the generals).

One last key is that the Bible is already interpreted into English there is really no need to go back to copies of the originals in Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic, Especially because God promised to keep his word to every generation Psalm 12:6,7. If you can't understand it in English you will not understand it in any other language.

Merry Christmas to all


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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Murgatroid




Gnosticism, not only is it a trap, it's also a dead end just like all other religions


And yet you subscribe to the trinity a totally alien concept to Jesus, why do you always attack gnosticism but tow the Party line?

The Roman Empire created the Christianity you hold so dear - why do you still fall for it?

www.trinitytruth.org...


So the trinity was not derived from scripture but was conceived in philosophy. Greek philosophers were greatly influenced by Plato (427-347 BC) who was considered the greatest of all Greek philosophers. Plato was ingrained with Trinitarian thought and knew that all the ancient religions had triad deities, and so he desired to come up with a better definition to define God above all the deities of Greek mythology. Plato's definition of God was, (1) The “first God,” who was the Supreme Being in the universe; (2) the “second God,” whom Plato described as the “soul of the universe”; and (3) the “third God,” defined as the “spirit.” The Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria (15 BC-AD 50) who followed Greek philosophy was influenced by Plato's version and saw God as, (1) Father, who created all things (Philo named him “the Demiurge”), (2) Mother, who was Knowledge the Maker possessed and (3) the Beloved Son was the world. Supposedly the union of demiurge and knowledge produced man's world. This esoteric type of thinking is what led to the birth and development of the trinity.
Notice how these quotes document a belief in a divine trinity in many regions and religions of the ancient world and that the origin of the conception is entirely pagan



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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there's something magical about being able to curse a whole line of decendants...one could almost say it's witchcraft, but well, it can't be that since Noah was a righteous man in God's eyes...



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: Murgatroid




The most likely perps were Julius Caesar, Muslim Khalif Omar, or the Catholic church.


So Julius Caesar born 100 bc - died 44 bc
Muslim Khalif Omar born c.583 CE – died 3 November 644
the catholic church - born? ........

So these perps burnt the Library once, twice or 3 times? DO you even bother to proof read what you type?



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: sHuRuLuNi





The prophets of God were above things the evil priests wrote about them.



So what bible do you cherry pick from?



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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King Saul was a prophet and he lied and disobeyed.

King David was a Prophet and he committed Adultery.

King Solomon was a prophet took 300 wives and had 1000 concubines and worshipped Idols

Jonah was a prophet a disobeyed God.

I would say that you were wrong and the Bible was right.



Just goes to show that any wicked man can apply to be a prophet of jehovah, the more evil the better, after all they follow jehovah, the petty jealous mountain god, the demiurge.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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why is there so much incest in the bible? Lot the one good man slept with his daughters (but it wasnt his fault because he was drunk) and then noah apparently was drunk and his son had sex with him.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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Especially because God promised to keep his word to every generation Psalm 12:6,7.


Funny how god needed the catholic church (that you all lambast) and its armies to bring you your unaldulterated bible at the point of the Sword. As long as the Church and State share power in writing the script as to how your lives are led you all will await your reward in the afterlife; meanwhile your earthly masters takes their rewards now.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar




one could almost say it's witchcraft, but well, it can't be that since Noah was a righteous man in God's eyes...


Dont forget the magic of Moses turning a staff into a snake...



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
Just goes to show that any wicked man can apply to be a prophet of jehovah, the more evil the better, after all they follow jehovah, the petty jealous mountain god, the demiurge.

Ooooo, Oooooo; now that was cruel yet so true to reality.

Now try not to turn into ACME Cayote and allow the bible hit-squad to drop a 14 ton ACME mountain boulder on your head.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: awareness10
You're most likely dead on about that. I've read a few books about Rivera, a Jesuit priest and his 50 yrs trapped in the catholic church, he speaks of many secrets within the walls of the Vatican including Islam, that was years ago now.

How the Vatican created Islam

His testimony is where I first learned about this many years ago.

The fact that so many others have confirmed it as well is what finally convinced me 100%.

Eventually after seeing numerous parallels between so many other manufactured "religions" like Hinduism, Mormons, Scientology, etc. it was impossible to deny.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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Ham is Noah's youngest son ( or grandson?) Canaan is Ham's son. Noah (in Genesis 9:20) cursed Canaan for Ham seeing his father (Noah) naked and telling his brothers Shem and Japhet who then walked in backward and covered his nakedness and told Noah what Ham did. Why Curse Ham's son (Canaan) for Ham's wrongdoing? And what was Ham's wrongdoing anyway?

One of the most accepted works of Judaic tradition is that of "The Torah Anthology" by Yalcut ME'Am LO'EZ- His work can be obtained by internet and is renowned as the most accepted. In his account of Noah he says that Noah wanted a forth son to serve him in his failing years which was the custom. The youngest son was the servant of the Father till he was released either from death or as a gift. Ham being wed and exempt from this service was jealous that his father Noah would even consider another son and this jealousy provoked him to castrate his father.

Ham had four sons with Canaan being the youngest therefore it would have been that Canaan would have served Ham in his old age. Noah, being wise, knew that Ham was blessed by God and that he had no authority to revoke this blessing but in order to punish Ham he then took Ham's youngest son and made him a servant to Ham's brothers Shem and Yefeth. This then cheated Ham out of a servant to serve him just as Ham had done to him. As Canaan was to serve Shem and Yefeth Ham had to either have another son or have none to serve him. This punished Ham the same as Ham had betrayed his father Noah.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Plantagenet

There is no specific answer as not enough information is available on the subject. These are the most popular speculations:

Noah refused to curse his son since God had already blessed Ham in Genesis 9:1.

Noah could see that Canaan also possessed the carnal and materialistic nature of Ham, and he realized it would only get worse in the coming generations. Perhaps this is why the phrase “Ham the father of Canaan” was used in Genesis 9:22, since Canaan was very much his father’s son.

Canaan was not only the father of the Canaanites, but also of the Amorites, Jebusites, Sidonians and the Phoenicians. All of these peoples would at some period in the future wage war against the descendants of Shem and (to a lesser extent) Japheth, and would also become grossly idolatrous. Noah may have been prophetically denouncing this departure from faith in the true and living God.



The Other possible reasons:
beginningandend.com...



While Noah and his sons were 100% human, we are not told the same about the wives of his 3 sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth. What is clear is that one or more of these women were carrying the Nephilim gene. This is the source of the post-flood Nephilim.

From the first time Ham is introduced, he is described as “the father of Canaan.” Notice none of his brothers get any similar distinction. It is possible that Canaan carried the Nephilim gene. If Ham were wicked and not a follower of God, the odds of him taking a wife who was a part of the Nephilim hybrid pagan culture was much higher.

Wait back up a bit, it was the other way around those desert nomads were the ones encroaching on civilized societies, if you believe their own story GOD gave them his blessing to take Canaan the land of milk and honey from the Canaanites pretty much the sort of manifest destiny to justify taking other peoples stuff including labor to cover all over the globe, because God sayz so,

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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

actually God didn't use the Roman Catholic church at all. Most of the text for the King James doesn't come from the western church in Rome but from the east.

No church and State exist any where that I am aware of in Christianity

You'll have to try harder but I love how you took this comment out of the context intended.

Typical 3 D's you used also.


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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 09:03 PM
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Has the OP Gotten his answer to the question or was it posted just for the sake of drawing out lines in the sand?
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