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originally posted by: BlackProject
originally posted by: Son of Will
This may sound outrageous, but in reality it is deceptively simple. All I need is one paragraph to make a 100% iron-tight argument. (Two caveats: first, by 'eat animals' I refer to the industry of keeping livestock or attacking animals for the purpose of consuming them or a byproduct of them. Roadkill is fair game. Second, those not living in a modern, Western society, without access to the foods we take for granted, cannot be included. This is for the modern world. Anyone living in poverty must think of themselves and their loved ones first before other animals. I'm not advocating martyrdom.
Are you writing this from confusion and brain fatigue? They say that happens when you do not get the vitamins you need from meat. Sorry to see that.
Many Inuits live very healthy lives until old age on an only meat diet. Also considering their brains grow and become much more mentally stable then the average joe, if those who think eating meat is odd well its not. Most humans do not eat enough meat and therefore our brains shrink, this makes us ill. Eating meat will make you healthy, its a mixed diet that brings us down.
Inuit Lifestyle Lower Heart Disease Rate & Cancer
originally posted by: DumpMaster
a reply to: Son of Will
I don't eat much meat but I don't see the problem with it. I love bacon and burgers as well. I also love chips which are made from potatoes and salads as well.
Humans evolved in a way that we require both otherwise our teeth would be flat like a cows. Just because you can survive without it doesn't mean we aren't naturally meant to do it.
Another thing, 1 cow could essentially feed a family for at least a week if not a month right? That is 1 life.
Lets look at a salad. How many different kinds of things are in it? I bet at least 20 plants lives were taken for that single salad. Did you know that each one of those plants was once a living thing. Are you racist against plants and not even consider their lives? It's life was ended so you could survive. That's the same as with meat. It is unfortunate but in order for us to survive we have to take the lives of something else. It is how our body works. I
The only way a human could eat without taking somethings life is if they were eating space dust and only in the vacuum of space at that. If you were to grab a handful of dirt here on earth and eat that how many thousands or millions of bacteria life did you take? You think you can crack open a fresh rock and eat it here on earth? I doubt it because as soon as it's cracked open there is an extremely high chance that some sort of microscopic organism has landed on it and then you just took its life when you ate the rock.
I wonder though, are vegetarians against meat that is created 100% in a lab without having ever come from any animal? Is that cool with you guys?
originally posted by: saadad
You are poor at reading.
I suggest you to check study for meat linked to cancer. Milk linked to calcium deficiency. Those are from 2014 and 2015.
Also in your link they talk about vegans that abuse they children, but I ask you where are those child services when parent feed his child with meat garbage that increase kids chances for cancer or where are those services when kids get leukemia, cancer and other illnesses linked to meat? What, those kids were not lucky? Nobody is responsible? I don't defend any parent that abuse they kid on whatever way. But I know many parents who buy cheap meat and highly processed crap meat and feed they poor children with that.
originally posted by: Pantokrator
Conclusion: all of the above arguments are invalid. That's to say, we can't conclude that it's ethically right to eat meat on the basis that we can eat meat, always have been eating meat and enjoy eating meat. Just in a similar way we can't conclude that it's ethically right for men to rape women because men can rape women, always have raped women and enjoy raping women.
originally posted by: Pantokrator
The second argument: humans have always eaten meat.
This type of argument could justifying anything from oppression of women to slavery.
originally posted by: Puppylove
In the wild life is harsh, you think the way we kill cattle is bad? Imagine being a Buffalo, worn out, with a few bites out of you, run until you can run no longer, lying on the ground, tired, blood slowly trickling from your body. You want to live, so you keep fighting, heart pounding with each laborious breath as your life slowly fades. Around you waiting for your death, is the pack of wolves that hunted you down, the ravens cawing ravenously. You know what they want and you want no part of it, occasionally a wolf comes in to see if you've had enough, if it gets close enough, another bite is torn from your hide. You struggle, you find enough strength to shift your weight, you scare it off again. The pain and fear continues, but still you struggle on as the day passes. Hours upon hours of this continue as you fight and struggle to get in one more breath. Then it happens, your strength gives out, you have no more fight in you, not enough that matters anyway. You slump down, and in comes one of the wolves again, he bites and you shudder, you try to move, but you can't move enough. Another wolf comes in, and again you try but to no avail, and then it begins as they realize your fight is over you're done. They start tearing away your flesh, you feel each painful bite, and soon after hours of fear, of fighting for your life, in one last horrific struggle you finally die, painfully, as you're eaten literally alive.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Scouse100
Vbites celebration roast,
Why firstly would you need to emulate something that is so bad for you.....I know why.....because you prefer this chemical cocktail
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