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As long as we have religion in this world we will have...Wars...Hatred...Divisiveness.

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posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 12:37 AM
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a reply to: Metallicus

No it is not our nature. That is a cop out. It is not my nature to kill other human beings or even animals for that matter. Do I eat meat, yes. Will I go out and kill for the hell of it, No.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 03:15 AM
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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: grainofsand

Spiritual Power is verifiable, religious rhetoric is man made BS.

Rubbish, your 'spiritual power' is as unverifiable as any religious claims.
Your beliefs are no more valid than any others, just you assert yours as fact lol



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 10:08 AM
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I say we do away with all religions. It may not stop the conflicts, but it will bring us a step closer. Religion has probably been the greatest tool for division.

Why do educated people believe in god anyway? My awnser would be brainwashing. Parents and society keep the god myth alive.



posted on Dec, 24 2015 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: soulpowertothendegree


As long as we have religion in this world we will have...Wars...Hatred...Divisiveness.

Did you make a statement or a wish? Are you implying that with no religions that the world would have no wars? Was WWII a political or a religious war? Stop and think for a moment. Did Hitler, Hirohto, Mussolini, and the Muslims wage war on the world through political or through religious aspirations? If you were taught that it was religion then I should then ask you to give an account of that and tell us exactly what religion was against what religion.

World-Wide Casualties*

Battle Deaths 15,000,000 -
Battle Wounded 25,000,000
Civilian Deaths 45,000,000

Source
www.nationalww2museum.org...

Were you aware that Germany was over 90% Christian (67% Protestant and 33 % Catholic) in 1939 and that the German Jew was about 1% ?

Japanese religions are mainly Shindo (Shinto) and Buddhism and if you look into Shindo (about 80 - 85%) you will then understand that their religions had no part in alliance with Germany in 1939 or even today. Then you had the middle eastern Arabs (Muslims) who joined the big Four in world dominance. All were a mixture of various religions who declared war on the world and between Forty five to fifty million people lost their lives or were crippled for the rest of their lives.

And you make a statement that religion was the cause of this without even realizing that America murdered that many babies since 1973. So in effect what you are selling is that if there were no religions in the U.S. then forty million more babies would have lived? Are you serious???



posted on Dec, 26 2015 @ 03:49 AM
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a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

religion is just like a vestigial tail. it probably served a purpose long long ago, but today it's just a pain in the ***, and only serves to get in the way of everything, best to snip it off.


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posted on Dec, 26 2015 @ 04:00 AM
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a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Explain the Soviet Union. Explain North Korea, Explain Nazi Germany. You can't quote any religious influence because none of these men followed that influence. It's like saying I was born in a democrat hoem therefore whatever I do, even if it is the opposite was biased toward democratic influence.

Go to downtown LA to the nice non-religious gangs and see if they treat you better.

Your post is littered with hate itself, including a bitter inner turmoil where you blame that you yourself failed, calling it the failure.



posted on Dec, 26 2015 @ 05:08 PM
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I agree to an extent.

But humans would find something to fight about.

Land?
Money?

You name it, we'd fight about it.



posted on Jan, 5 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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Occultism is religion, for it is the description review of a human male who created science for the purpose of creating powers.

He therefore reviewed creation, to gain those powers.

The ancient wisdom regarded the sacred holy secret building practice of stone....for religion is the philosophy of the stone....nuclear.

The ancients did stone levitation and then got incinerated for changing the nuclear crystal transmitters of Earth's natural stone fusion. This is real, for the archaeological evidence supports the outcome.

When occultism was practiced as a science it caused evil spirit manifestations....devil presences and then aliens.

The same facts happening in modern times use of stone crystal transmitter changes.

Religion therefore was the reason that the evil spiritual presence was conjured due to occultist practices...SCIENCE and converting.

We then were taught interpreted meanings from the occult science, which has no truth to the natural living holy spiritual conditions that life belongs.

The true spiritual condition is to love each other as your own self...for we are a world family....the same DNA presence that simply has a slight difference of materialized appearance due to stone magnetism. This is why the spiritual family is different by appearance...yet we all were created the same...from manifested spirit.

All humanity worldwide attests to spiritual deceased manifestations, of visiting relatives who give messages that spirit survives personal death. Therefore we all came from exactly the same place.

We all live on Earth as the same self and were deceived by occult practices...religion itself.

We all want the same for our family...to be safe...loved...cared....healed....given food/water/shelter and to be treated as an equal...we love to trade, we love to share our spiritual expressions, our crafts. This is who we really are, and we were all forced to give this condition away to an ancient brotherhood who decided to become occultists...scientists.

If anyone wants to dispute this fact, then begin with religious documents and demonstrate to your own person that the information is describing the spirit condition of alchemy....not human life or human spirit. Occultism was to use the personal human psyche to imply alchemical conditions that did not actually belong to our own person.

The facts are obvious....we live in a heavenly atmosphere...yet we die and disappear as a life. The organic heavenly body spoken about in religion discusses alchemical interactions for occult uses....and it never had any personal condition of self human ownership...we simply survive in the Heavenly body.

We were taught many misconceived ideals, after the occultists who applied the science caused the conjuring of evil spirits that attacked us all....we were forced to believe in teachings of fear so that occultism would no longer be practiced....and yet it was.

It is about time, we all want the same outcome...to be saved from our own evil choices.



posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: blueman12

I second that.



posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 08:30 AM
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Religion is the one underlying reason for every single war that has ever happened in life on earth.



posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: veracity

I disagree, its money and greed. Religion is to get the populace to rally behind you to avoid uprisings and dissension.



posted on Jan, 15 2016 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

Money and greed as well but religion always one of the reasons too, Always. Religion bad.

Money to expand their religion...yes


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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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Religion tries to imply it is spiritual and yet the teachings taken from occultism/conversion of nuclear matter regard changes of forces. The implied references never related to human life...but to conversions.

The information not shared in public as a real teaching for the occultist has never wanted his knowledge of spirit powers to be known by anyone else.

Even today the same occult practice of sciences does the same situation...keeping new experimental data secret....formed a new scientific reasoning of secret literature so that the public would not realize their evil occult practices.

As occultism attacked our spiritual life many times by use of the levitation of stone for building....it altered gravitational forces...our lives then witnessed the outcomes of being attacked by released NUCLEAR ORBITALS that belonged to underground nuclear stone fusion.

They were not known to us...for ancient fusion of stone was never known...only the outside crystal signals every told us stories about its spiritual interactions...being a closer history to human life and human thinking.

So we have only ever known information that is a lesser time frame of cold radiation.

We changed radiation by shamanic ancient occult practices....that began with a brotherhood. We all know our spiritual history...our stories told us that our ancient brother on a level of consciousness that agreed with occult practices...worldwide as a self...all did occultism....they all did science.

They also had the power to overthrow the natural spiritual communities by forced brotherhood action. This action was taken all over the world...not just in 1 country. The brotherhoods then began to attack each other as control status itself.

Our ancient brother was an occult and evil human being...all world communities own this brotherhood of conscious choice. We are all the same.

Together this brotherhood as a world wide human life choice gave his own person...his children the inheritance to own the status of civilizations....gained from family overthrow.

All world communities are the victim to this tactic.

Our brother has never healed his own mind....for everytime he evolves his consciousness he chooses the same outcome....to force occult conversion of Earth matter and then life gets attacked...his brain chemicals change...he becomes mutated and he becomes evil minded...angry and retaliative.

All spiritual teachings are ignored by him....as he takes the information of the occult (science conversions of spirit matter) as reasons to destroy human life.

He is by reasoning a self destructive human being who causes his own destruction by 2 conditions that he inherits....causing the changes of the human brain and then also acting on those changes...both as a scientist and also a human believer of the spiritual occult teachings.

Males are wrong...always were. Males...the dominator of life on Earth demonstrate that they live a dispirited unequal status of self ownership of everything...and dictate to each other and also the females.

Religion has always been wrong...religion is the teachings of occult science and conversion of spirit matter.

Spirit is natural....spirit is equality...loving/kindness/caring/sharing and living as a world community of support.

We are a family of spirit and always were.



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