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Jackpot-fixing investigation expands to more state lotteries

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posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 11:55 PM
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The allegations read like a movie plot: a lottery industry insider installs an undetectable software program in the computers that pick winning numbers so he can know them in advance. He enlists accomplices to play those numbers and collect the jackpots. And they enrich themselves for years until a misstep unravels their high-tech scheme.


It is a huge scandal: SOURCE

I'm just blown away at how bad this news is and the fact it has been out for days and I have just now caught wind of it.

More sources: www.cnbc.com...

abcnews.go.com...

www.chicagotribune.com...


edit on 12am2015-12-22T00:00:52-06:00120012America/Chicago001231 by machineintelligence because: more sources




posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: machineintelligence

that bums me out so much. i have been playing the lottery in California since 1984, I think, since it was voted in. I play powerball, megamillions, and California lotto. Fuggg. Is everything rigged.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 12:42 AM
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I didn't realize there were lotteries where computers picked the winning numbers. The ones I've seen used ping pong balls. Seems kind of dumb to have a lottery where computers pick the winning numbers. Somebody's going to hack that eventually.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 12:50 AM
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a reply to: VictorVonDoom
I had not paid it much attention but have friends bugging me to play. I never do but I do not care for gambling.


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posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 01:04 AM
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originally posted by: machineintelligence
a reply to: VictorVonDoom
I had not paid it much attention but have friends bugging me to play. I never do but I do not care for gambling.


Don't think of it as gambling. Think of it as paying a couple of bucks to have pleasant daydreams about what you would do if you were filthy rich. Kind of like drinking without the liver damage.




posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 01:05 AM
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Nothing surprises me anymore. Every program, every business, every part of local, state, and federal government, seems to have been infested and ripped off by corrupt, lying rats. Nowadays, it just goes without saying.

But part of that is the lifelong, just-outside-of-Chicago, Illinois resident in me talking.

In the words of Jack Nicholson's joker:

"THIS TOWN NEEDS AN ENEMA!"



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 01:24 AM
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a reply to: M4nWithNoN4me

Wasn't Illinois giving out IOUs to lottery winners?

You can't give the establishment an inch because they will take an indefinite mile.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 01:42 AM
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originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
I didn't realize there were lotteries where computers picked the winning numbers. The ones I've seen used ping pong balls. Seems kind of dumb to have a lottery where computers pick the winning numbers. Somebody's going to hack that eventually.


Computers pick everything, it's more secure that way. From slot machines, to keno numbers, to powerball. Even in those "live" drawings with the ping pong balls, a computer is still picking the number.

I've got some family that work in casino gaming, so I've grown up with the regulations and read a few of the books on what can/can't be done. One of my college professors also creates casino gaming software so I've had some long chats with him.

The gaming side is so heavily regulated that this should be impossible, at a minimum it's very likely not the fault of the software vendors. What is entirely possible though is that a lottery official figured out he could get the numbers a little bit early and took advantage of it. In any system the human is the main point of failure.

From the sounds of it, if he was allowed to install a root kit to directly access memory on the machine that would be a failure of the IT department for not locking their equipment down. It would also probably (contrary to my earlier assertion) be a failure of the software vendor for making it possible to read the memory in the first place.

Reading further, it seems this Tipton guy was an IT guy that was pretty high up in the chain. So really it's on his boss for not following proper safety procedures.

A lot of work in casinos or other gambling systems work on the same principal as nuclear weapons, there are 2-3 others with you and watching you for everything you do. This guy seems to have been running around with free reign doing whatever he wanted, and that will cause issues.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 02:01 AM
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a reply to: machineintelligence

Three BIG wins in Newtown, Connecticut shortly after the massacre. .....do the math....



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 02:05 AM
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a reply to: Enderdog

Not to mention a couple dozen mortgages, zeroed out on Christmas day....(Didn't realize the county clerk was open on a holiday)....



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
I didn't realize there were lotteries where computers picked the winning numbers. The ones I've seen used ping pong balls. Seems kind of dumb to have a lottery where computers pick the winning numbers. Somebody's going to hack that eventually.


Numbers picked by balls can be rigged aswell, in the Serbian lottery the numbers came on screen before the balls came out of the machine and even the host was like WTF who screwed up.

www.dailymail.co.uk... machine-sparking-accusations-fix.html




posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 07:40 AM
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Where's there money, there's always crime to be in a mak'n. Today, here at many stores the money is put into the register with a video cam above and the change will be calculated automactically and comes out of the register just like the atm machines. Yes, the loto can be rigged, but it is true, there is the backup as stated in the article, but who is watching the backup.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: NeoSpace

That was a strange video. Thanks for the add.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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I've long suspected this is happening in California as well. My entire family (even grandpa) has been playing the lottery since it was introduced (early 80's I believe) and none of us has ever won anything over $100. We're talking thousands and thousands of dollars wasted on scratchers, SuperLotto, MegaMillions, Powerball, etc, etc. It's disgusting that our own government pushes this scam on it's own citizens. It's a slap in the face really and I hope this investigation rips the lid off of it and the states loose billions in compensation, shutting down the sham program at the same time.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 05:14 PM
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gambling is for entertainment. I hope your whole family was not actually throwing money down everyday/

I buy 1 ticket when jackpots go over 100 million. just to get some skin in the game and dream a little.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 05:26 PM
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As I see it when buying scratchers, if I had fun scratching it, then it was worth the price for that entertainment. When it stops being fun, and about the payoff, it is time to stop.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: Battlefresh
I've long suspected this is happening in California as well. My entire family (even grandpa) has been playing the lottery since it was introduced (early 80's I believe) and none of us has ever won anything over $100. We're talking thousands and thousands of dollars wasted on scratchers, SuperLotto, MegaMillions, Powerball, etc, etc. It's disgusting that our own government pushes this scam on it's own citizens. It's a slap in the face really and I hope this investigation rips the lid off of it and the states loose billions in compensation, shutting down the sham program at the same time.


Winning over $100 is roughly 1 in 17,000. With some small estimates such as rounding off a few numbers, assuming your "entire family" constitutes 4 tickets/week, that you play once per week, and that you've all been doing this since 1981, that means your chance of having won over $100 so far is 34.03%.

The odds really are quite bad.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 06:31 PM
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The Powerball once had a special drawing on the beach in Florida. While they were popping out ping pong balls on the beach, the same ping pong balls were popping out of the wgn ping pong machine on the other channel.

They used to admit to using a computer to select the numbers and that the ping pong machine was for dramatic reenactment, but they took it down. Now they only tell you if you write them.

There are, IIRC, three machines that are in a secure area that generate the numbers.

I'm not sure you couldn't use a heavy stats attack to better your odds.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

The interesting thing about lotteries is that they're not actually random. They have to ensure that jackpots aren't hit too often, or that certain payouts don't occur which cost them money. In a purely random situation such a result is possible.

I remember reading a year or two ago about a guy who applied this principal to scratch off tickets and he was able to figure out which tickets would be winners just by it's location on the spool of tickets rather than needing to actually scratch them off to win.

There certainly are systems one can create that are theoretically secure for lottery numbers, and those systems should be implemented but it sounds to me like they weren't in this case because an IT guy was able to get access to the machines.



posted on Dec, 23 2015 @ 04:54 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: Bedlam

The interesting thing about lotteries is that they're not actually random. They have to ensure that jackpots aren't hit too often, or that certain payouts don't occur which cost them money. In a purely random situation such a result is possible.

I remember reading a year or two ago about a guy who applied this principal to scratch off tickets and he was able to figure out which tickets would be winners just by it's location on the spool of tickets rather than needing to actually scratch them off to win.

There certainly are systems one can create that are theoretically secure for lottery numbers, and those systems should be implemented but it sounds to me like they weren't in this case because an IT guy was able to get access to the machines.



This would make sense, in the UK you have untill 7:30pm to buy your ticket and the draw is not till after 10:00pm, gives them time to calculate a set of numbers with the smallest pay out.




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