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Bernie Sanders will not get the Democratic nomination

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posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Kudos on doing your research on the Clintons.
It's a shame more people and younger voters don't take a look at their absolutely corrupt history...going back to Arkansas.

Voters really need to know the history and TRUE character of the person they are about to elect as their next President.

Honestly, Adolph Hitler had a less storied pre-rulership history.
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posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I think it would be an amazing election if the most extreme candidate from each party were pitted against one another. That would be worth paying to watch...


In a way it would be, but then we wouldn't have a Trump/Sanders election. Trump is not the most right leaning Republican.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I still say there are a lot of older Democrat voters who KNOW/REMEMBER the Clinton legacy...and will come out to support Trump over Hillary. They won't say so publicly, but I know quite a few who will pull the lever for Trump, if Hillary is the nominee.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

And that's another reason why Trump is such a dangerous candidate. He's not just getting the disaffected Republican vote. He's draining disaffected Democrat votes too.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: ketsuko

I still say there are a lot of older Democrat voters who KNOW/REMEMBER the Clinton legacy...and will come out to support Trump over Hillary. They won't say so publicly, but I know quite a few who will pull the lever for Trump, if Hillary is the nominee.

Yes the scandals were there but so was the economy that out stripped even Reagan's, so while Hillary is there Bill is right beside her,so it could cut both ways.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Where did she serve her time?



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Where did she serve her time?


Nowhere. And Jeffrey Dahmer would be no more admirable if he had never been held accountable.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

But at least he doesn't throw his wife away for younger stuff.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Oh come on. I don't care that Bill cheated, but Hillary could have easily left him. That wasn't entirely his decision.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

But you have the right to tell her what to do with her cheating husband?

ETA this sort of attack will not work with older women voters FYI. Too many of us from the old school forgave our husbands and now in old age are glad of it.
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posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: MotherMayEye

But you have the right to tell her what to do with her cheating husband?


I don't care that he cheated or that she stayed either. Not my business what they do with their marriage.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: MotherMayEye

But you have the right to tell her what to do with her cheating husband?

ETA this sort of attack will not work with older women voters FYI. Too many of us from the old school forgave our husbands and now in old age are glad of it.


Reply to your ETA: I'm not attacking their marital decisions. You contrasted Bill with Trump when they are actually pretty comparable. Also, I think you are confusing me with someone from the 'new-school.'



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: MotherMayEye

But you have the right to tell her what to do with her cheating husband?

ETA this sort of attack will not work with older women voters FYI. Too many of us from the old school forgave our husbands and now in old age are glad of it.


And do most older women, who've been cheated on by their husband sexually abusing/assaulting younger women, head up a team of operatives to smear and silence those very same abused women?
Hillary did.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: muse7
Let's be honest with ourselves here, Bernie Sanders will not get the nomination.

If history has taught us anything is that moderates get the nomination, a socialists would get destroyed in a general election against whoever the Republicans nominate.

Hence why I have made up my mind that I will vote for Hillary in the general. It seems to me that a false narrative about her has been set, and I won't try to convince anyone to vote for her, she is winning the nomination anyway. However hearing fellow Bernie Sanders supporters saying that they will throw an emotional tantrum and not vote or vote for Trump, if sanders isn't nominated is just stupid.

And no I don't think both parties are the same l, and if it makes you feel smart saying that they are then you really haven't been paying attention.

For Muslims, immigrants, LGBT and minorities both parties are NOT the same.



No offense, but this is exactly what the Democratic establishment was saying in 2008. Virtually no one gave Senator Obama a serious chance against her, much less a chance to be elected President if he won the Democratic nomination. It was an uphill battle for him all the way until he won that long string of Democratic primaries.

I find the situation w/Bernie to be similar. Everyone on the Left knows Hillary well. She & Bill have been in power in some form since the late 1970s. Many establishment Dems and center-right Dems support her path (like the Third Ways, Neoliberals, and Blue Dogs). But the actual left wing simply doesn't accept her. We know full well what she stands for and we reject it.

If it was a level playing field, she wouldn't even be a serious candidate. But since her backers are powerful & her friends are insiders, it will once again be an uphill battle for anyone on the left that opposes her candidacy. So the Dem primaries are literally a test of the left wing base to see if we can unite behind a candidate/movement that can overcome the Democratic establishment. If we can, we'll be strong enough to win the presidency (I believe the progressive's "hope & improvement" message is a better motivator than the right's "fear & shutdown" message).

The problem here is too many progressives are focusing on Bernie as opposed to focusing on a united progressive movement. One thing I'm personally working on is trying to change the dialogue so that progressives are fielding actual progressive candidates in every single election. If a Dem is the candidate, great. If the Dem candidate is center-right or a DINO, voters should move on to the next candidate. That way, even if Bernie loses the nomination, there will still be thousands of other progressive candidates to be motivated to campaign & vote for.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: EilasvaleleynThe Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”) aims to expand coverage to about 30 million Americans by requiring people to buy private insurance policies (partially subsidizing those policies by government payments to private insurers) and by expanding Medicaid. However:

1. About 30 million people will still be uninsured in 2023, and tens of millions will remain under-insured.
2. Insurers will continue to strip down policies, maintain restrictive networks, limit and deny care, and increase patients’ co-pays, deductibles and other out-of-pocket costs.
3. The law preserves our fragmented financing system, making it impossible to control costs.
4. The law continues the unfair financing of health care, whereby costs are disproportionately borne by middle- and lower-income Americans and those families facing acute or chronic illness.
5. Obama Care has failed for the most part.
6. A single payer system like Medicare will have problems as well. Look at Medicare as a example of what does not work that good in America. Individuals want to be able to choose their Doctors. Americans do not like to be forced into some plan that does not work. They preferred the old system where they choose their Doctors.
7. We where told so many lie's about Obama Care.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 04:19 PM
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That guy is a liar. Any fool who votes him in hasnt seen his track record. Saids one thing and does another. Americans love magician politicians



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: Jordan River

Haha, Bernie's immaculate record is proven to me simply by the fact that his competitors aren't smearing him over it, despite it being a large part of his campaign.



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: Jordan River

You post a few partial sentences of purely opinionated propaganda, do you truthfully expect that to change anyone's opinion of Sanders???

LOL's



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

He might just be hoping for agreement from people who are anti-Bernie. There isn't even a listed example of Bernie being a "liar."

Unless he's actually talking about Obama in reference to the above post, and we're misunderstanding?
edit on 27/12/2015 by Eilasvaleleyn because: Reasons



posted on Dec, 27 2015 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

He may just be feeling his share of the Christmas spirits, tis the season of brandy and egg nog for all!

What ever the reason for it, his post is just pure BS from the conservatives fantasy land!



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