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Miss Universe 2015 crowning moments horrendous fiasco, why this so weird double Trump?.

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posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:19 AM
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If the result was rigged then the reasonable path to follow would to find who makes money of Ms Universe in the up coming year. Is one candidate more profitable then the other.




posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:37 AM
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A more ridiculous pretzel-twisting effort to slander Trump I have never seen!

The 'devils' are coming out of the woodwork now to discredit Trump in any way they can, including using an 'angel of light' to do it!

Trump must be onto somebody and tptb are starting to pull out all the stops to shush him and stop his momentum. I wonder why.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: roadgravel

Dear roadgravel,

Given that the contest was in Las Vegas I think your comment is interesting, chances are that there was betting in some way, and if we take in account that before the day of the actual final Colombia was the great favorite it is not improbable to think that here we could be dealing with a kind of huge speculation maneuver to defraud the betters.

So the great question here is who profited in the betting?, that in las Vegas is extremely likely to have occurred.

I would not be surprised if at the end of this bizarre situation the authorities find that somebody became extremely rich in just the night of the crowning.

The entire issue deserves to be deeply investigated by the authorities, it is important to determine what it is in behind of a so strange incident, after all Harvey is not a beginner in his kind of job, he had a so much extensive previous experience to have committed a so incredible mistake.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness
edit on 12/22/2015 by The angel of light because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: queenofswords

It is quite ironic that you use the adjective ridiculous to qualify the analysis of a situation that instead to be funny is absolutely sad and extremely shocking, any body with a minimum of common sense can feel the extremely stressful situation that Miss Colombia and even Miss Phillipines have had in that night.

It is not a secret that Mr Trump requested publically the resignation of Miss Universe 2014 Paulina Vega as soon as she expressed to the media her rejection to the irresponsible xenophobic anti Hispanic campaign he launched as a smog curtain to deviate the attention of the people to the lack of real serious political propositions to fix the great issues America is dealing with at present.

Mr Trump was a declared enemy of not only Mexico but also the Miss Colombia and moreover of almost any woman that tries to show capability to contradict him in public, why dont you ask the also Republican Carly Fiorina what she thinks on this bad imitation of stateman after all the so rough attacks she received from him?.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness
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posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:45 AM
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It's Philippians.




posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: The angel of light

There is the betting aspect and then her time as winner in 2016. Someone is bound to make money during the year as she promotes whatever it is they have her do.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: queenofswords

It is quite ironic that you use the adjective ridiculous to qualify the analysis of a situation that instead to be funny is absolutely sad and extremely shocking, any body with a minimum of common sense can feel the extremely stressful situation that Miss Colombia and even Miss Phillipines have had in that night.

It is not a secret that Mr Trump requested publically the resignation of Miss Universe 2014 Paulina Vega as soon as she expressed to the media her rejection to the irresponsible xenophobic anti Hispanic campaign he launched as a smog curtain to deviate the attention of the people to the lack of real serious political propositions to fix the great issues America is dealing with at present.

Mr Trump was a declared enemy of not only Mexico but also the Miss Colombia and moreover of almost any woman that tries to show capability to contradict him in public, why dont you ask the also Republican Carly Fiorina what she thinks on this bad imitation of stateman after all the so rough attacks she received from him?.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness


First of all, the word 'ridiculous' doesn't always mean 'funny'....it can also mean absurd and deserving of mockery or derision. That is the way I meant it in my comment.

The sooner you hyperbolic ranters understand what Trump said about ILLEGAL Mexican immigrants, the better you will understand that he was absolutely 100% correct that among illegals coming into our country are rapists, criminals, and drug dealers.....100% right.

But, of course, all the rabid-dog criticizers "heard" was Trump hates Mexican immigrants, when that is not what he said at all. Even Paulina Vega participated in the lie and the over-the-top rhetoric about him being hateful and hurtful when nothing could be further from the truth.

He even says he loves the Mexican people, but they need to come here legally. Common sense, no bigotry or racism involved in that comment. So, AOL, show me where he should be declared an enemy of Mexico.

Again...ridiculous!

I will concede one point since Carly is my gal. She has a beautiful face. Hillary was the one insulting Donald's hair, so he should have directed the barb toward her, not Carly. I don't think Carly had insulted his appearance, but I could be wrong. That isn't generally her style. She is a class act presidential person all the way.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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Looked to me Harvey was reading from a teleprompter not a card.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: manuelram16

harvey skipped the last hour of the rehearsal run through and instead was drinking alcohol and betting at the roulette table before the live show



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 12:44 PM
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Did Miss Columbia become less beautiful when placed 2
or Miss Philippine become more beautiful when placed 1


edit on 22-12-2015 by artistpoet because: Typo



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 01:11 PM
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why does this pagent even exist? i dont think ive ever sat through and watched an entire show but i skimmed through last years pageant on youtube and i really saw nothing of substance...it looks much like a cheesier verson of a fashion show where they wear nothing but bad sequined costumes. and have fake smiles and use robotic rehearsed lines. :/

...and believe me i am not hating! i used to model about 4 years ago so i know about the industry
but we should get more women that actually have intelligent inspiring minds and parade them around instead.

kind of like a ted talk with beautiful women...wouldnt that be something?



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: research100
So that means he was reading the roulette instead of the Teleprompter ?

www.foxnews.com...




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posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: CthulhuMythos

The contest was in USA, this was also not the first in Las Vegas, so I dont think they invented any standards for this version 2015, so how in the world could Harvey have been misleaded by the design of the Card?

Now, one thing is sure the fonts that correspond to the Miss Universe recipient are clearly bigger and also it is the only one of the three that is printed on the right side of the card, I still find difficult to believe that Harvey could made a mistake that only an afficionate may commit after years working in pegeants.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 03:51 PM
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Said to be the card with results




posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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I believe this was Steve Harvey's first time to host this event. He mis-read the card. At first glance, the words "MISS UNIVERSE 2015" looks like the card's heading or title. He probably visually registered the words, 'second' and a 'first', and initially didn't even notice what was under the all caps heading. Sounds like an innocent first timer's mistake.

To insert Donald Trump's name in this at all is absurd. He's not even a part of this pageant anymore. This just shows me how eager hateful people are to smear this good man's name because he is not the smooth-talking lying politician most of us are used to.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

Dear Queenofswords, excuse me but you are not well informed, it is absolutely wrong your absurdity claim, Mr Trump is indeed still connected throug business operations with William Morris Endeavor Entertainment, LLC, who owns the pegeant.

I have posted serious information in my previous replies that show that the Erick Trumph foundation is linked in many common projects in TV with the current company that owns Miss Universe pegeant, so it is not true that Donald Trump is eons distant from the contest, it is just a way he used to wash his hands in advance of anything related with it, since he knew by sure that he was absolutely banned of the Hispanic TV for his terrible aggressive campaign against the Mexicans.

Here is the link again:
www.erictrumpfoundation.com...

It is Mr Laurence Glick who is incharge of to manage those shared investment projects in Between the Trump Productions and William Morris Endeavor Entertainment, LLC. So it is wrong to claim that there is no connection at all in between Donald Trump and Miss Universe Pageant, it is just a change of legal figure what was used to let him continue profiting distantly from it.

I invite you and anyother readers to inspect carefully what it is posted in the website of Trump foundation to verify the connection, in order to open your eyes of what is the actual current status of Mr Trump with respect to the Pegeant.

Now, Mr Trump is an extremely influential business man in Las Vegas, he owns important Casinos there, so he has other interests in the place this fiasco took place, and chances are that betting is the explanation of the so weird situation we all witnessed in the TV.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness
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posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: The angel of light

If you could accurately and within context lay out "his terrible aggressive campaign against the Mexicans", I would be happy to inspect further any influence you think he could possibly have had. Terrible and aggressive??



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: The angel of light
I explained the card layout from a graphic, visual and advertising perspective. At first glance my eye was not drawn to the small text that stated the winner, but immediately spotted the '1st' and the country printed next to it. So from a layout point of view the card was badly put together, which could lead to mistakes.
The fact that the miss universe 2015 was in such a large font made it look like it was just the title of the even and putting it on the right hand side also places it in the least significant or important position on the card space. In the USA most people read from left to right and so our eyes and brain are trained to look top left when we are handed a document, we don't naturally look at the bottom right area of the page first. So absolutely the card layout could have been a factor in him making a mistake.



posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

Hey we are talking of a politician that has openly proposed to do a witch hunting of whoever has entered illegally to this country that is of Hispanic origin, That is his personal obsession.

Mr Trump never have mentioned hunting of illegals from other nationalities or origins ( so people like Arnold Schwazeneger, Yoko Ono Lennon, Michael J Fox that spent years living illegally are exempt ), but moreover he has proposed also to retire the nationality and even citizenship to the Hispanic children born in this country, from illegal parents, something that is not only inconstitutional but a clear violation to the Universal declaration of Human Rights of the UN.

This would be applicable even to people that came as refugees to America escaping from grave conflicts triggered by the cold war that America fought along more than 4 decades with the USSR, like Salvatorians, Nicaraguans, Guatemalans, Colombians, Chileans, Bolivians, Argentinians, Uruguayans, Hondurans, Venezuelans or Peruvians.

Also people that came also as refugees to this country pushed by the terrible war that exist in between the international maffias of Narcotraffic and their goverments would be affected in a so much negative way if that decision take place.

Let me invite you and my other readers to check what has been the History of Narcotraffic in this country, to verify that America was already consumming drugs distributed by its own internal mafias in 1910s and 1920s, that was brought from Far east decades before the first cargo of drugs came from Mexico or other point of Latin America to this country.


Curiously Mr Trump, who is the only Repubican proposing such racial screening, and that he also recently proposed to expand as well over the refugges of other minorities like the ones that have arrived from Muslim Countries and their descendents born in America, has alot of investments ( hotels, clubs, casinos) in gambling paradises that exist in America like Las Vegas, Atlantic City and Palm Beach, sites that traditionally have been since their very beginning linked with Mafias. So it is ironic that an entrepreuner that does not care to be neighbor of mobsters and gangs is the leader of anti Hispanic crusade that pretend to clean of crime America don't you think so?

There are entire nations like Mexico and Colombia that have had a blood bath in internal wars, where hundreds of thousands of civilians, judges and members of the police and army has been killed, by Narcotrafficants that have confronted the authorities with very sofisticate arms made and exported from America, weapons that were sent by their accomplices in this country and that it is likely are not even Hispanic, but members of the traditional Irish American mob, Polish American mob, Jewish American mob, Italian American cosa nostra, Chinese American mob, the Philadelphia Greek mob, The Caldean American maffia , the Hawaiian Company, the Dixie Maffia and the African-American organized crime.


PLs read:
The Irish American Mob

Irish American mobsters

The Jewish American Organized Crime

The Cosa Nostra and other Italian American mobsters

The Polish American Organized Crime

The Philadelphia Greek Mob

The Dixie Mafia

The Chaldean American Mafia

The Hawaiian Company

The African American crime syndicates

All these very American criminal organizations that extremely active in our days are the ones that control all the distribution of Narcotics in this country and Donald Trump never has even mentioned in his cheap Anti Hispanic rhetoric blaming the Mexicans for all the issues of organized Crime that exist in America.

With which Moral authority are we going to expell and violate all the Human righs of people that have come to this country escaping from terrible conflicts that were orchested and boosted by criminal organizations that are operating from the streets of any major city of America?

The Hispanic community is in about 90 percent or more directly or indirectly victims of the crimes Trump has accused them to commit, that is the actual and dramatic true that he is trying to hide with the smog curtain of his crusade against the Mexicans.


Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness
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posted on Dec, 22 2015 @ 09:59 PM
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Sorry, this conspiracy theory makes to sense.

If it was rigged by Trump, I'm pretty sure he would have paid enough money to do it right such that none of us would ever even suspect it was rigged.

Unfortunately for all of those involved it was an accident.




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