a reply to: Swills
Ummmm... the founders were not to fond of Islam.
From May 1801 to June 10, 1805 sailors and Marines of the young American nation fought battles immortalized in a line of the Marine Hymn: “…to the
shores of Tripoli”. As American forces approached Tripoli on land threatening to capture it, Karamanli suddenly became interested in negotiations.
The war ended with a treaty exchanging prisoners, Americans giving Karamanli another $60,000 in ransom and an agreement from the Muslims to cease
attacks on US ships.
In 1807 Muslim pirate attacks on American ships began anew. As a result Americans led by President James Madison fought Algerians in the Second
Barbary War in 1815, leading to another treaty under which the Muslims paid American $10,000 for damages. The Algerian ruler almost immediately
repudiated the new treaty after the US departure and again began piracy and the enslavement of captured Christian sailors necessitating an 1816
Anglo-Dutch shelling of Algiers and ultimately the colonization of Algeria in 1830
American Commissioners to John Jay, 28 March 1786:
We took the liberty to make some inquiries concerning the Grounds of their pretentions to make war upon Nations who had done them no Injury, and
observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation.
The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet,1 that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have
acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of
all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.
John Adams did indeed own a Quran -- the copy he owned contained the following in the preface:
This book is a long conference of God, the angels, and Mahomet, which that false prophet very grossly invented; sometimes he introduceth God, who
speaketh to him, and teacheth him his law, then an angel, among the prophets, and frequently maketh God to speak in the plural. … Thou wilt wonder
that such absurdities have infected the best part of the world, and wilt avouch, that the knowledge of what is contained in this book, will render
that law contemptible ...
John Quincy Adams wrote about the Islamic prophet Mohammed -
In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with
the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation
and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he
connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the
faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to
the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and
the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind.
John Quincy Adams -
...he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind...The precept of the
Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God.
The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the
faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is
always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.
George Sale -
It is certainly one of the most convincing proofs that Mohammedism was no other than human invention, that it owed its progress and establishment
almost entirely to the sword.