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Well, this is 2015, not the 1800s...and by the way, had the blacks not been brought over from Africa with the slavers, most of their genetics would have been wiped out during African wars or still would have been enslaved to the Muslims, not given the greatest opportunity in history.
originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Vroomfondel
Christians in America murdered millions of Africans and Native Americans, and unlike ISIS, got away with it.
They were allowed to have their Christian state at the expense of Africans, who as slaves made them rich and native American heathens were just outright mass murdered to take ALL the land IN THE NAME OF CHRIST
And they didn’t have a secular power to stop them
LOOK AT YOUR FOUL SELF BEFORE YOU DARE JUDGE!!!!!!!!!!!
I have read it and it does not say that anywhere in section 212.
The section you are quoting would only apply to people in which the AG or the consular have specific information that would indicate the applicant poses a risk.
The minority Muslim population in the Central African Republic is being targeted in a relentless wave of coordinated violence that is forcing entire communities to leave the country, Human Rights Watch said today. The Central African Republic government as well as French and African peacekeepers should take urgent steps to protect the remaining Muslim population from revenge attacks by predominantly Christian militias and allied residents.
originally posted by: Willtell
Central African Republic: Muslims Forced to Flee
Christian Militias Unleash Waves of Targeted Violence
The minority Muslim population in the Central African Republic is being targeted in a relentless wave of coordinated violence that is forcing entire communities to leave the country, Human Rights Watch said today. The Central African Republic government as well as French and African peacekeepers should take urgent steps to protect the remaining Muslim population from revenge attacks by predominantly Christian militias and allied residents.
This is happening in many places across the globe even in Burma where Buddhists murder Muslims but this MSM only cites Muslim ATROCITIES and rarely do you hear the other religious people doing injustice
I wonder why?
Jews oppress Muslims in Palestine as well and the MSM, largely Jewish, rarely report it
And this OP pretends ONLY Muslims are doing wrong!
And only they use religion to oppress and abuse
A clear distortion that plays into the hands of bigotry
originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Kapusta
Meanwhile I'll be over here praying i don't get tossed into a detention camp before that.
Ah, sniff. (this is a serious sniff, not a sarcastic one).
I don't think anyone is going after the American Muslims. You hold tight. People are just worried about the influx. Not you. : (
originally posted by: Kapusta
originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Kapusta
Meanwhile I'll be over here praying i don't get tossed into a detention camp before that.
Ah, sniff. (this is a serious sniff, not a sarcastic one).
I don't think anyone is going after the American Muslims. You hold tight. People are just worried about the influx. Not you. : (
As much as I would like to believe that. It's sinply not true.
I have been a Victim a few times.
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: Willtell
Central African Republic: Muslims Forced to Flee
Christian Militias Unleash Waves of Targeted Violence
The minority Muslim population in the Central African Republic is being targeted in a relentless wave of coordinated violence that is forcing entire communities to leave the country, Human Rights Watch said today. The Central African Republic government as well as French and African peacekeepers should take urgent steps to protect the remaining Muslim population from revenge attacks by predominantly Christian militias and allied residents.
This is happening in many places across the globe even in Burma where Buddhists murder Muslims but this MSM only cites Muslim ATROCITIES and rarely do you hear the other religious people doing injustice
I wonder why?
Jews oppress Muslims in Palestine as well and the MSM, largely Jewish, rarely report it
And this OP pretends ONLY Muslims are doing wrong!
And only they use religion to oppress and abuse
A clear distortion that plays into the hands of bigotry
I am not pretending only muslims do anything wrong. THIS THREAD REGARDS PUBLIC LAW 414 AS IT APPLIES TO US IMMIGRATION. IT HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH BURMA, AFRICA, OR ANY OTHER PATHETIC CRAP YOU ARE SPEWING.
YOU ARE COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC.
knows or has reasonable ground to believe
Nowhere does it specify asking about their religion.
Paragraph C is not required and applies to communist organisations.
whose members are immigrating with inadequate vetting procedures and have been proven to be extremists with questionable or falsified documentation
qualifies under PL 414.
You’re whole premise is bogus and is itself unconstitutional
My posts are just to point out that many religions have adverse rules and laws
Where do you see loads of Muslim immigrants trying to upend the constitution?
When you have been clearly shown that within the very sharia is a rule that Muslims are obligated to obey the laws of the country they are living in.
Its not a perfect world, and by far this country sure isn't perfect. I personally have never been abused by any muslims, but then again, i live nowhere near any large populations of them. I however had almost been murdered several times by blacks, but had it not been for other more responsible blacks i wouldn't be rattling keys here today....So, no ones perfect, but most folks are good people, But now keep in mind that real murderous Islamic Terrorists are here in the US and they don't care what religion you are and have every intention on killing as many innocent people they can before getting taken out..and that's the problem
originally posted by: Kapusta
originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Kapusta
Meanwhile I'll be over here praying i don't get tossed into a detention camp before that.
Ah, sniff. (this is a serious sniff, not a sarcastic one).
I don't think anyone is going after the American Muslims. You hold tight. People are just worried about the influx. Not you. : (
As much as I would like to believe that. It's sinply not true.
I have been a Victim a few times.
the consular or AG can consider religion as an organisation if they choose to and if that is a qualifying condition, they can act on it. It is their call, not yours.
Paragraph C is part of the law, but is not part of this thread nor is the thread dependent on its inclusion.
If any half-assed lawyer could have torn this to shreds, it never would have passed congress with veto override in to law.
You are entitled to your opinion, wrong as it may be.
originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes
Maybe because this thread is predicated upon the blanket punishment of an entire group of people based on their religion? The premise of this thread, like every other thread on ATS seems to be these days, is "Muslims are criminals." This is no different than saying "Christians are criminals." The fact that Islamophobes can't see that speaks volumes.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Vroomfondel
Why are you so afraid?.
Why do you guys always assume its fear and/or hate? Why has discussion of prudent safety for all become hate speech and bigotry?
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: peter vlar
First, it is your opinion and nothing more. Second, I am not calling for anything. I am simply pointing out that according to US law islamic immigration can be determined illegal. THAT is the fact.
The problem is that the Koran, Sharia law, and the Hadith all demand that true followers of Islam subjugate or destroy those who do not submit to the will of Islam. So, if they are of Islam, then by definition either they are not following the edicts of the religion, or, they should not be allowed to immigrate to the US.
Congress, with full attention to the Constitution, created and passed that law.
If you want to assert you know more about my education and knowledge than I do, you are welcome to look like a fool any time you like.
If you want to assert that you know more about Constitutional law than congress, you are a fool with an agenda to heavy for your narrow shoulders to support.
That is the third time you have accused me of T&C violations. Obviously the mods do not agree with you. Now to that you add the accusation of plagiarism. You are on dangerous ground. Three times you have accused me of this and not once have you shown me the text you are referring to.
This law has existed since 1952. There is nothing new about it that has not been expressed before. Nothing. True credit would belong to the first person to make any given statement. I have read several texts regarding this legislation and the ideas and thoughts of people who agree with it. To expect me to not incorporate that information into my own dialogue is disingenuous.
not an iota of this is original work