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UN's Ban Ki-Moon accuses Israel of 'breeding' Palestinian terror attacks

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posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 02:20 AM
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Mr. Bunnie Ki-moon has no idea what he is even saying, a large amount of the latest palestinians who so happily became martyrs were not "angry youth with no other option" that is such a load of rubbish.

The first video Dashen posted, the man was around 30-40 had a family and kids, the vehicle he used was a company car, he worked at Bezeq one of the biggest ISP in the country, if you work there you have a solid paycheck and lots of benefits, so no he was not occupied/oppressed/had no other option.

The poor teens and kids who went on doing the same did not do it because they "had no options" they are simply being constantly brainwashed by Hamas media and propaganda, Hamas fills the TV channels with constant propaganda and cartoons they make encouraging people to go on stabbing spree/vehicle attacks/and as of late also with guns.

And no, I did not say Israel is not to blame so don't get confused, but this constant "Israel bad" "palestine poor oppressed no food no water" silly lies need to stop.
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posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 02:32 AM
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a reply to: Vamana

But then i agree it needs to stop in both directions.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 06:52 AM
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Ahhhh the UN.... the unbiased fighters for justice...


Guess how many UN resolution there is against ISIS..



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 07:15 AM
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a reply to: Swills




UN's Ban Ki-Moon accuses Israel of 'breeding' Palestinian terror attacks


Funny but I don't see that in his actual discussion with the Israeli president as shown here...


Thank you for receiving me so warmly and at such short notice.

My visit reflects the sense of global alarm at the dangerous escalation in violence between Israelis and Palestinians. I am here to encourage and support all efforts to lower tensions and prevent the situation from spinning out of control.

I want to express my condolences to the families and loved ones of all the victims of the hostilities and terrorist attacks. No society should have to live in fear. No society can afford to see its youth suffer in hopelessness.

If we do not act fast, the dynamics on the ground may only get worse, with serious repercussions in and beyond Israel and Palestine.

It is not too late to avoid a broader crisis. In my meetings today and tomorrow with the Israeli and Palestinian leadership, I will be appealing to all to take concerted steps to limit new incidents on both sides. Violence only begets violence. We must not allow extremists on either side, or those who think violence is the answer, to further fuel the conflict.

Beyond the immediate tensions, what is missing is the resolve to restore a political horizon for talks, and a political process that delivers real results and hope. Violence only undermines the legitimate Palestinian aspirations for statehood and the longing of Israelis for security.

The status quo is only making things worse. This conflict has gone on for far too long. We must, for the future of our children, turn back from this dangerous abyss, safeguard the two-state solution and lead people back onto the road towards peace.

The United Nations, and I as Secretary-General, will continue to support all efforts to create the conditions for a return to meaningful negotiations and a just, comprehensive and lasting peace.

Thank you.


www.un.org...

I also found this, but don't see where those remarks are made...



Seems one would go to the actual source instead of a second party for the actual comments from him.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: breakingbs
a reply to: yuppa

Everyone and every THING is a lie.



Almost right but If the DE FACTO leaders of a people say they are not a real people i tend to believe them though.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

My source is the Jpost, Israeli. So unless they're lying about him so they can play the victim card he probably said it. He's been very critical of Israel for years now.

Also, that video and UN address you've got there is from October and Ban's message the article is talking about happened last Tuesday. No wonder you couldn't find what you were looking for. Seems one would look at the actual date instead of assuming this video from October is the message in question.

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posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: MaxMech

Ahh the UN, the organization that created Israel.

Pictures are fun but perhaps getting the sources they're created from could provide much more context because we all know these memes are never created to mislead or anything...



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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My source is the Jpost, Israeli. So unless they're lying about him so they can play the victim card he probably said it.


Except your source says this...


In a message delivered on his behalf to a conference on the “Rights of the Palestinian people,” UN Secretary- General Ban Ki-moon said the recent terrorist attacks by Palestinians against Israelis are “bred from nearly five decades of Israeli occupation.”


So your source doesn't actually show proof of him saying this, but interpreted that way at a conference for " Rights of the Palestinian People", and you don't see the victim card being played?

Seems he would say that to the Israeli president had he felt that way, but if you watch the video he blames both sides for the violence...not just Israel.



He's very critical of Israel for years now.


Which would have made it easier for him to say that to Israel and not just supposedly to a conference for Palestinian Rights. He isn't in a position to show his bias towards one side of this conflict or the other.

The UN is supposed to be un biased...and note I said supposed to be.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 11:40 AM
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In his message, which was delivered on Tuesday, Ban also blamed the “settlement enterprise” for the deterioration of the situation in the region.


What video are you talking about? The video that you posted which is from October, you know the wrong video? The video the article is talking about happened last Tuesday, you know December 15, 2015.

Ban's video message wasn't created for Netanyahu (not that he would even listen), it was created for the two-day International Conference on the Question of Jerusalem which took place in Jakarta, Indonesia. Source | UN


United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, in a message delivered on his behalf by Douglas Broderick, United Nations Resident Coordinator in Indonesia, said a growing one-State reality threatened to close the window of opportunity to reach the two-State goal. Indeed, the Meeting was taking place against a backdrop of one of the most serious eruptions of Israeli-Palestinian violence in recent years.


Now as far as Ban's video message that was delivered last week, well I cannot find it on the internet yet. It's not on the UN's YouTube channel as of today but I'm sure someone will get around to uploaded it sooner or later.
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posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Vamana



Mr. Bunnie Ki-moon has no idea what he is even saying, a large amount of the latest palestinians who so happily became martyrs were not "angry youth with no other option" that is such a load of rubbish.

You do understand that this illegal occupation of Palestine has been going on for over six decades now right? So all these people grew up under the occupation and everyone has a snapping point.



The poor teens and kids who went on doing the same did not do it because they "had no options" they are simply being constantly brainwashed by Hamas media and propaganda, Hamas fills the TV channels with constant propaganda and cartoons they make encouraging people to go on stabbing spree/vehicle attacks/and as of late also with guns.

More than likely it's because they grew up watching their friends and family members being beaten, kidnapped and murdered by the IDF that made them go on stabbing sprees.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: MaxMech
Ahhhh the UN.... the unbiased fighters for justice...


Guess how many UN resolution there is against ISIS..

What's the difference between those nations in the pic and Israel? Those other nations are currently holding another nation under a brutal occupation. Also the UN passes resolutions against nations and seeing how ISIS isn't a nation they cannot pass resolutions against them. But they have condemned ISIS.
Security Council ‘Unequivocally’ Condemns ISIL Terrorist Attacks, Unanimously Adopting Text that Determines Extremist Group Poses ‘Unprecedented’ Threat



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

Yeah th e Palestinian refugees are illegally staying there when their mother country can take them back but wont because in black september they were exiled. Jordan ethnic cleansed them. which is illegal under the UN and geneva conventions right? So why should they dictate how another people run their country? Go back home to jordan with UN help.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 01:31 PM
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evolution tells us that monkeys fling poop from behind their own boundary, they're a non-invasive species...
so if we are derived of monkeys, why do we have to relearn how to respect each others boundaries?
ya'd think the monkey invaders would tire of getting poop flung upon them by the monkey inhabitants?
poop would have been saved for the monkey that would later run with scissors...among the trope.

if you don't like poop flung upon you, move your tent.

isn't it time to behave like a civil society, or cannot a savage beast be tamed?

if you don't like being called such a name, take off the mask...play a new role?

/rant



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: Swills




What video are you talking about? The video that you posted which is from October, you know the wrong video? The video the article is talking about happened last Tuesday, you know December 15, 2015.


How is it a wrong video...why because it doesn't back you, and your sources assertions?

Here you go the message where he supposedly said this...


I am pleased to send greetings to all those taking part in this event organized jointly by the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.

This meeting takes place against the backdrop of one of the most serious eruptions of Israeli-Palestinian violence in recent years. It is no coincidence that Jerusalem was one of the sparks that lit the fuse of this latest escalation, as it did in the early 2000s, when the intifada took so many Palestinian and Israeli lives.

Jerusalem, one of the oldest cities in the world, holds shrines sacred to billions of people worldwide — Muslims, Jews and Christians alike. What happens in Jerusalem reverberates around the world. Any action which could be interpreted as attempting to change the delicate balance, and particularly the status quo of the holy sites, carries with it the risk of conflict.

I welcome the understandings reached in October of this year between the Governments of Israel and Jordan to stabilize the situation around the Al-Haram Al-Sharif/Temple Mount. Israel’s reaffirmation not to seek to divide the site and the commitment to enforcing the long-standing policy in which Muslims pray and non-Muslims visit the holy sites must be strictly upheld. I hope that increased coordination between the authorities concerned will help to ensure respect for the sanctity of the area.

I conveyed these messages to officials during my emergency visit to the region in October.

To address the wider escalation of violence, I also underlined the urgent need for leaders to rein in incitement, for Israeli security forces to ensure a calibrated use of force in response to incidents, and for all of us to address the prevailing lack of a political horizon to end the occupation and achieve a negotiated two-State solution.

Continued security cooperation between Palestinian and Israeli authorities remains integral to a peaceful resolution of the conflict. However, the violence cannot and will not be addressed by security measures alone. The anger we are witnessing is bred from nearly five decades of Israeli occupation. It is the result of fear, humiliation, frustration and mistrust. It has been fed by the wounds of decades of bloody conflict, which will take a long time to heal. Palestinian youth in particular are tired of broken promises and they see no light at the end of the tunnel.

This is at heart a political conflict that will require serious negotiations by parties willing to make the necessary compromises, supported by regional partners and the international community. Only through a negotiated solution can a sustainable Palestinian State be established and Jerusalem emerge as a capital of two States, with arrangements for the holy sites acceptable to all.

As the current situation continues to deteriorate, and the settlement enterprise continues to expand, a growing one-State reality threatens to close the window of opportunity to reach the two-State goal.

In such a critical context, all parties must refrain from attempts to establish facts on the ground that alter the character of the Holy City or the demographics of the West Bank. Settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem are illegal under international law and an obstacle to peace. Demolitions of houses and other measures of collective punishment are in contravention of Israel’s obligation to protect civilians.

The violence and attacks against civilians, including rocket fire from Gaza, are unacceptable and must stop.

Let us empower the voices of all those on both sides who want peace to prevail. Let us stand up against extremists seeking to exploit the bloodshed.

I look forward to the revitalized Quartet realizing its full peacemaking potential, strengthened by its cooperation with regional partners and the international community, to create the conditions for a return to meaningful negotiations.

The United Nations, and I personally, remain committed to helping the parties bring the occupation and this long-standing conflict to an end, in pursuit of the lasting vision of Israel and Palestine living side by side in peace and security.

In this spirit, please accept my best wishes for a successful event.


www.un.org...

Your source is lying as this is exactly what the man said, but feel free to prove he said what you, and your source are asserting to?



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 01:51 PM
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Jesus, are you still asking how it's the wrong video? Are you dense?! The video you posted is from OCTOBER!! The video the Israeli article is talking about is from DECEMBER! Seriously, what about this do you not get??????????

It's quite funny you're accusing Israeli news outlets of lying. But did you read that link you posted and quoted because quite clearly Ban said what he said. I'll quote it for you.

www.un.org...



The anger we are witnessing is bred from nearly five decades of Israeli occupation. It is the result of fear, humiliation, frustration and mistrust. It has been fed by the wounds of decades of bloody conflict, which will take a long time to heal. Palestinian youth in particular are tired of broken promises and they see no light at the end of the tunnel.


So thanks for wasting my time with your nonsense and lack of understanding how a calendar works.
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posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

of course that poor oppressed man earning around 2500-3000$ per month working at the evil oppressing Israeli company, a whole family to support no wonder he "snapped" such a bad life he had.

More of the same old rhetoric, once you actually live anywhere near the area and not thousands of kilometers away reading biased internet articles then I will "understand".

And you know every single reason why someone was taken into questioning? no? don't claim that is the sole reason and every single palestinian had someone they know "kidnapped".

But Hamas are so peaceful and loving right? how about you check some of their new material that is being broadcasted all day on their TV channels, step by step instructions on how to stab to cause the most damage, cartoons showing how the whole area has only Islam telling them all they need to do for it to happen is go stab some Israelis, yea I am sure that lovely propaganda has nothing to do with them going on stabbing sprees, no way,

Lots of issues that need to be addressed, these issues will never be fixed as long as Israel gets blamed for everything.
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posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: buster2010

Yeah th e Palestinian refugees are illegally staying there when their mother country can take them back but wont because in black september they were exiled. Jordan ethnic cleansed them. which is illegal under the UN and geneva conventions right? So why should they dictate how another people run their country? Go back home to jordan with UN help.

Yeah people whose families that have been living there for centuries are living there illegally. Keep on believing that Zionazi propaganda.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 03:03 PM
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But Hamas are so peaceful and loving right?

I never said they was now did I? They should be placed on trail right next to the Nazis running Israel. Also if you have such a problem with Hamas then why don't you ask Israel why they put into power?



Lots of issues that need to be addressed, these issues will never be fixed as long as Israel gets blamed for everything.

Until the occupation ends along with theft of land by the terrorist Israel allows to build illegal settlements. Kidnappings and murders done by the IDF until all these things end then Israel will get blamed for practically everything. This happens when the government of a nation runs around acting like Nazis.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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NEW YORK – In a message delivered on his behalf to a conference on the “Rights of the Palestinian people,” UN Secretary- General Ban Ki-moon said the recent terrorist attacks by Palestinians against Israelis are “bred from nearly five decades of Israeli occupation.”


Try 1400 hundred years of utter contempt between the arabs and Jews.

But hey BLAME Israel.

Anyone does that means their 'automatically' right.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Swills

It figures that the U.N. and the OP would blame the victims and support the terrorists and their tactics. It is pretty obvious that those that sympathize with the terrorists are a large part of the problem.


Bollocks to victims.

Both sides have blame and BOTH have blood on there hands.

There are no good guys and bad guys or "victims". Just a bunch of religious nuts full of hate and fighting a 2000 year old battle.

Best thing the world can do is completely cut of support for BOTH sides and let the barbarians work it out themselves.



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