a reply to: HardBoiled
Dude just check the demographic changes over the last 50 years. We are a land of immigrants, always have been. Remember the french protestants fleeing
persecution. The hugenoten? Part of the golden age of our country and such.
In modern times we have happily brought over immigrants to do the low skill low paying jobs, so we could do things we liked more without having our
economy getting of balance by wages getting to high. For these people would work longer for less.
And if you take all the different people all over the world that have moved to the Netherlands. You will see that a large majority has successfully
integrated. Understanding and contributing to our societies, whilst at the same time maintaining their own cultural heritage as is their right.
Because you probably do not have much problems with the Chinese restaurants, and the Indian Delhi's, the Suriname take out. The Turkish pizza ect ect.
Places like Amsterdam are wonderful melting pots between so many varied people. The exchange students love it... haha.
I hear their are quite a few educated Syrians coming our way as well. I enthusiastically await the contributions they will make to our economy.
I have so many friends from so many different backgrounds. We actually have a poker group. A dutch boy ( me ), A half indonesian, A tunisan and a
chinese fellow, sometimes a surinamer chick. A wonderfull bunch. I had a fiesty Marocan model living above my previous living space, also lived
together with an Iranian political refugee who was studying hard and contributing to our metal industry. University students from Afghanistan. The
Turks bussy with selling furniture. The list goes on and on and on and on. People just living their lives, having a job, having a social life,
completely in harmony with western society.
You know, dutch culture is not even that interesting. Its old and dusty. What do you want to preserve. Old windmills don't worry they are on the
UNESCO. Tulips? Buisness is good. Big exporter of flowers? Cheese all good. Volendam? Tourism will keep that going. Last I checked the beautiful city
centers of Amsterdam, Harlem, Alkmaar, Hoorn. Still there. I never found The Hauge, Utrecht, or Rotterdam appealing to begin with. So what do you want
to preserve? Old Amsterdamers you curse every 7 words in a cute manner? do not worry the jordaan blijft bestaan..... haha. Or do you want the
political bettutteling of Norms and values to stay high in our minds, come on...... Andre Hazes..... Frans bouwer, need I go on?
What cultural integrity do you mean.
A lot can happen in 2 generations..... and meh native dutch people may indeed become a minority, so what? If most of the people did not take on our
way of life the social fabric would have broken down a long long time ago. Who we are as a nation has always changed. We as a people are in a better
position to stand our ground in this ever globalizing world, because we have such a varied populace. Problems occur when very large groups that think
and feel very much the same way come together at one spot and start putting pressure on local politics. We have that at some places, but all in all
its within reason ability.
Well dire straits is such a relative view is it not? Yes the welfare state is slowly being reformed to something the establishment considers
financially manageable, but you can blame stock market crashes and debt crisis, and to big to fail for that. Not immigration legal or otherwise.
Considering the circumstances we are fairing well enough. It could be a lot worse a lot lot worse.
You are being very dramatic. Ever considered theater as a career choice?
There is poverty and their are many social economic problems. Lets let the economists and politicians for better or worse do their work to sort such
things out oke?
Reality will not change just because you are angry.
Look I know your scared that our country will impoverish, but we have always pulled through as a people. Have faith that we will pull through this
process as well. Together. Of course things could be better, but we have one of the best infrastructures in the world. Everything we can not solve
with money we will solve with community.
Things will be fine, breath relax.