Unique Hebrew inscription found at Galilee

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

do you think when he was up there on the cross, as a carpenter, that he was critiquing the worksmanship of the cross?
well, the lil guy on the crosses at church sure looks scrawny.

So the way he came to show is let yourself become a bloody golgothan lawn ornament??
Please quote this jesus in the underworld story and its sources please.
Who is the Jailer?
Keys?
Sources?

a reply to: dashen

Artistic license is the answer you're looking for in regards to the scrawny sculptures. Why? Ask them, there was no committee or poll!

Regardless it was a sacrifice, willingly given because it was the only answer to open the door to God.

As we accept and believe, Jesus "clothes us in righteousness" before God allowing us to be in his presence.

To be fully light/Good(God himself, with God, Heaven, etc.) there must be an absence, or division between light and dark, good and evil.

That is not to say we are sinless, or not guilty of harm to others. We are very much so, especially on Earth. Still subject to Man made laws and processes.

As far as lawn ornaments, thats hindsight from your perspective.

As a parent you would throw yourself in front of a train to stop it from killing your children, right?

So what happens to your body as its splayed across the street just to be added to a newspaper or Faces of Death to be a spectacle? That is not the real concern.

Child safe? Check!

Me? who cares, my Child gets to live!

originally posted by: dashen
Please quote this jesus in the underworld story and its sources please.
Who is the Jailer?
Keys?
Sources?

Have you even read the Bible ?
en.wikipedia.org...

1 Peter 3:19-20New International Version (NIV)

19 After being made alive,[a] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,

a reply to: Marduk
Oh you mean those extremely vague easily mistranslated verses that he will save even the spirits of the dead?
Where exactly does it speak of his commando mission to Hades?
beating up the jailer and taking away his keys?
also not mentioning that the term Hades is used many times in the New Testament and was probably lifted altogether from Greek mythology

a reply to: dashen

Thats a debatable verse anyway, not canon. By that I mean only a few churches add in "..and decended into hell..." during the proclamation of faith.
I read it as though he brought the good news, not quite the unearthly exodus as previously expressed.

Hades.

Yep, it was translated into Greek first, so the greeks used a word familiar to other Greek readers.

Same place(place for tortured souls), essentially just a different name.

Can you add where Greek Mythology was added in, aside from the word?

a reply to: dashen

Although the Apostles Creed mentions that he descended to hell there is no scriptural basis for this whatsoever as far as I can tell.
And if he did how would anyone ever know?
you would think that would be an important thing to write down, but no, although we have several passages talking about cursing fig trees and how a bunch of his own men are his betrayers.
And even if that were the case what does it matter to anyone else?
If the guy literally couldn't save himself from being nailed to a giant lower case T, how can he save anyone?.
And if you say he was a willing sacrifice then why did he ask God why he was forsaken?.
If that was his true intentions then why were his last words not in fact I am here turning into a human pin cushion to save everyone from their sins?.
His final words were actually an expression of his loss of faith.
And there are other problems of course.
since Joseph was married to Mary the virgin birth would literally make Jesus a bastard forgive the phrase
He is the son of a someone who is not his mother's husband.
the scientific implications of course are ridiculous as well.
if Joseph was not the father than what did his Y chromosome look like?.
A glowing little cross maybe?
the fact truly is the earliest beliefs of the church no way no how resemble almost any form of Christianity in existence today.
Simply put it was made up and is still being made up.
Jesus and His apostles kept kosher, were religious Jews, the final supper was a Passover Seder, they used ritual baths which were known as a mikvah which was later turned into baptism.
At some point Saint Paul hijack the religion and totally made it into something else, so it shouldn't look like Judaism anymore.
according to some recently discovered ancient manuscripts of the Talmud st. Paul was actually a double agent working forthe Jewish Synod of Tiberias.

a reply to: dashen

according to some recently discovered ancient manuscripts of the Talmud st. Paul was actually a double agent working forthe Jewish Synod of Tiberias.

Care to post some of these manuscripts?

I know of nothing of the sort...

Thanks