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Did Bernie Sanders take credit card info?

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posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: Malynn

Who do you think is ultimately behind Google?

G lobal(OO=two eyes open and watching) G overnment L ooking E verywhere

Don't Google this info. See if you can find it outside of google. It can be done.

If Bernie Sanders's camp took ANY two points of info about a single person, and his representative took such info...that is illegal and Mr. Sanders should also be held responsible. Encryption laws are tight these days.

If not, nothing to see here and move along to the next scandal.




posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Oh Neo. Welcome back. I was wondering when you would show up. I'm so pleased you're here. You can repeat "SANDERS IS GUILTY" as many times as you want in your most belligerent voice and it still won't make it true. You can also attempt to use the word socialist as an ad hominem all you want and the only people it will deter is people like you. Relics of a bygone era when red blooded American males smoked Lucky Strikes and talked out of the sides of their mouthes about "Them dirty commies see"



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Flatfish

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Malynn

Sander's also immediately fired the staff member who accessed the data. He was completely open about the entire data breach and tried to settle it with the DNC. The DNC's support for Hillary decided to make it public to dirty Sanders campaign. The data wasn't fire walled and was easily accessible. It's why Sanders has filed a suit against the DNC.

The breach wasn't under Sanders direction nor did he have knowledge of it at the time. It's why he fired the staffer.

Politics, it's a dirty business.



According to reports there were 4 accounts used to access this info, so 1 out of 4 scapegoats got fired..


They fired the head of the dept. who openly stated that it was his directive that led to the intentional breach.

They also stated that others may be fired and/or disciplined depending on what their investigation turns up.



In other words, others may be fired if this doesn't die down and go away quickly.


Do you mean..."In your words?"

As quickly as they fired the head of the dept., I have no reason to believe that they won't do the same thing to anyone else who is found to be complicit in the breach or any other illegal activity.

It would be incredibly stupid not to do so, just to have it blow up in their face later and IMO, Bernie Sanders is NOT stupid.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Yeah. It does look like his campaign did something illegal.
Still, it's early in this...and the DNC DID give him access back.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: NewzNose

Yes I was in fact alive before Google. And your comments about it are completely immaterial to the discussion.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: Malynn

Here it is AGAIN.



“We were informed that our proprietary data was breached by Sanders campaign staff in 25 searches by four different accounts and that this data was saved into the Sanders' campaign account.


25 searches. 4 Staffers.

Clinton supporters 'waivering' covered 1 search.

WHAT about the other 24, and what were the other three doing ?

Oh yeah 'nothing' of consequence.

Alrightie then.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:05 AM
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Technical question:
Couldn't screen grabs or photos be taken of lists and numbers, so downloads would not be registered?



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Malynn

Here it is AGAIN.



“We were informed that our proprietary data was breached by Sanders campaign staff in 25 searches by four different accounts and that this data was saved into the Sanders' campaign account.


25 searches. 4 Staffers.

Clinton supporters 'waivering' covered 1 search.

WHAT about the other 24, and what were the other three doing ?

Oh yeah 'nothing' of consequence.

Alrightie then.


And everyone here on ATS can now consider themselves "informed" that Neo thinks Bernie Sanders is "guilty."

Does that make it true?

Hardly!!!!

I think I'll just wait for the computer audits.
edit on 19-12-2015 by Flatfish because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT
Hey! A cogent question! What a surprise. And the answer is yes.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Oh man. How many threads are we gonna do this in? Is it burning your fingers btw? Holding up the statement by the CLINTON campaign as your banner? I think we need to commemorate this event for posterity. "Hear Ye Hear Ye! *rings her bell* Neo is holding up the official statement by the Clinton campaign as truth! "

The way the software works you do a search and if there is no firewall everything shows up. If you see info in your search that isn't yours OF COURSE you're going to look. Now did his four young staffers go to far? Probably. We'll find out after the investigation. But the way you're attempting to paint the narrative that Bernie was sitting there intentionally being underhanded is hilarious. Like most of your posts.

Dude I can't get over your quoting the Clinton campaign. Which is also the party this whole event was orchestrated to benefit. In the other thread you were pretty vehement about not supporting any of the Republicans. Could this mean....no....are you carrying water for good ole Hill this time around?



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Technical question:
Couldn't screen grabs or photos be taken of lists and numbers, so downloads would not be registered?


Yes.

All they really had to do was print screen, and run off hard copies.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Technical question:
Couldn't screen grabs or photos be taken of lists and numbers, so downloads would not be registered?


I've wondered the same thing and I'm no computer analyst, but I'd think there would be a record of the screenshot on the host computer's hard drive.

Then again, I could be completely wrong about that.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:11 AM
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Oh man. How many threads are we gonna do this in? Is it burning your fingers btw? Holding up the statement by the CLINTON campaign as your banner? I think we need to commemorate this event for posterity. "Hear Ye Hear Ye! *rings her bell* Neo is holding up the official statement by the Clinton campaign as truth! "


So politico is 'official' spokesman for the CLinton camp eh.

I did not know.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:13 AM
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*smirks* So you're saying they were not quoting the Clinton campaign?



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:17 AM
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Here's a thought ?

How about READING the article ?

Would that be too much ?



But audit logs suggest a more complicated story than that simple DNC vs. Sanders storyline. Read more: www.politico.com...




Records show that during a 40-minute span that began at 10:40 a.m. on Wednesday, four Sanders staffers sifted through the Clinton campaign’s data and conducted 25 specialized searches, according to a person familiar with the breach. The most valuable information obtained, the source said, were lists of individuals the Clinton campaign has identified as its most hardcore supporters across 10 states, as well as lists of those individuals whose support for Clinton is wavering, and could therefore be convinced to support Sanders instead. Read more: www.politico.com...


I guess it is.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:19 AM
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This thread is NOT in the mudpitt which means ALL T&C applies including civility and decorum. If either side can't resist trolling for 'lol's' then please don't post at all.

As always, do not reply to this post.

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posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Believe me. I've read them all. And the "source" is the Clinton campaign.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Malynn

Here's a thought ?

How about READING the article ?

Would that be too much ?



But audit logs suggest a more complicated story than that simple DNC vs. Sanders storyline. Read more: www.politico.com...




Records show that during a 40-minute span that began at 10:40 a.m. on Wednesday, four Sanders staffers sifted through the Clinton campaign’s data and conducted 25 specialized searches, according to a person familiar with the breach. The most valuable information obtained, the source said, were lists of individuals the Clinton campaign has identified as its most hardcore supporters across 10 states, as well as lists of those individuals whose support for Clinton is wavering, and could therefore be convinced to support Sanders instead. Read more: www.politico.com...


I guess it is.


And if you would have listened to those describing the system and how it works, you would know that during those periods when the firewall goes down, every search any campaign does allows them to view the other campaign's data in that category right along with their own.

So in essence, any search they performed on their own data would constitute a breach into the others as well.

If this is true and I highly suspect that it is, the only way not to have committed a breach would have been to not access any data, (including their own) during those times when the fire wall goes down.

If it's true that the Sanders & O'Malley campaigns had previously noticed and complained to the DNC about this reoccurring problem and they did nothing to fix it, the blame falls squarely on the DNC.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 11:50 AM
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It is kinda of fun...in a political microcosm sort of way...watching two socialists fighting over stealing other people's money from each other.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Lol you're implying Hillary is a socialist?



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