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originally posted by: Learningman
a reply to: Bedlam
It really is, there is no logical way to deny this fact. Allah means literally 'The one God' in reference to the God of Abraham, it is well known, and taught even in Christian schools.
Yes, it does wear you out doesn't it? But this is the exact type of argument that comes up every time someone even gets a whiff that there might be a hint of Christian anything in the schools.
"This is so WRONG! There is only ONE GOD and HIS NAME is JESUS!" one user posted.
Jesus Christ on a stick, this is insane. It's just teaching kids what a Shahadah is.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Ghost147
originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: boymonkey74
I know where you are coming from. But Christianity and Islam are never going to reconcile.
You'be got some horrid verses in the qu'ran to thank for that.
Yeah... Exclusively the qu'ran.... Right
Leviticus 26:28: (Eat your own children)
Yet if in spite of this you do not obey Me, but act with hostility against Me, 28then I will act with wrathful hostility against you, and I, even I, will punish you seven times for your sins. 29'Further, you will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters
This wasn't an instruction to eat children but was a warning that if the Israelites continued to do the wrong thing, they would end up performing the most degenerate and horrific acts. Historically, it was the report of a mother cooking and eating her own baby that changed Vespasian's mind regarding the siege of Jerusalem and caused him to end the siege and send the troops in to take control, with the result that Jerusalem was destroyed and most of the population massacred.
Timothy 2:12 (women are inferior)
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
Paul,who wrote this, was taught by Sybil and honored her as his teacher. This particular verse was written because of a specific heresy at a specific church and was an instruction to Timothy as to how to deal with the problem.
Judges 19:24-25 (here, have my daughter to rape)
"Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go."
This was indicative of the degeneracy of the time. The book of Judges describes a time when Israel was quite lawless and "everyone did what was right in their own eyes". It is not an instruction for fathers to allow their daughters to be raped.
Hosea 13:16 (Kill pregnant women and mutilate their bodies)
"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."
This is not an instruction to be followed, but a prophecy of the horrors that would befall Israel because it had turned away from God. Assyria attacked Israel and purportedly did this. There are descriptions of similar horrific actions in Homer's Illiad.
Good ol' Holy Bible... So pure and innocent? I think not...
You truly are delusional if you think the Bible is pure and innocent.
The Bible and its believers do not make any claim that it is 'innocent'. Instead, it truthfully portrays the dangerous consequences of turning against God and seeking to follow personal ethical relativism.
originally posted by: DeepThoughtCriminal
I thought that in Christian belief, Jesus was the son of God whose name is YHWH - interpreted as Yahweh or Jehovah. Maybe I am wrong, but I thought that Jesus wasn't actually God himself, but his son sent to instruct the world in God's teachings?
Also, the Muslim god is the same as the Christian and Jewish god. "Allah" is just the Arabic word for "God". Don't people know this?
originally posted by: hammanderr
The USA is at war with Islam right now. Would American school children have copied stuff out of Mein Kampf during WWII? Would they have been asked to write about the joys of communism during the cold war/Vietnam war era? No.
This was an unfortunate incident, the teacher should not be fired. But anti Muslim sentiment should be fostered in America's youth in this day and age. It should be understood that Islam is a failed ideology, that pretty much sucks in every way.