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originally posted by: introvert
The first problem when approaching this particular issue is that there is a language barrier. Certain terms and phrases may appear to say one thing when viewed through our modern understanding of them. But they were used in different ways and meant something a bit different back then.
One example would be the word socialism.
People see the word socialism in the name of the Nazi party, National Socialist German Workers' Party, and assume that the word "socialist" is used with the same meaning as we believe today. But it's more complicated than that. It would be better if you understood how it was applied by those that lived back then.
The Nazi ideology was based on "Volksgemeinschaft". It means a community of people. A unified nation. A union. That is the context in which the term "socialist" is used. It's more applicable to ultra-nationalism than it is to actual socialism. You have to remember that socialism is an economic and political model. Very little of which was incorporated by the Nazis.
Anyway, you have to better understand the differences in terminology between the 1930's and 2015 to better understand Nazis, fascism and socialism.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: MystikMushroom
What's wrong with identifying as being human, of planet Earth?
When the individual loses their identity to the collective.
Say hello to fascism.
Say hello to communism.
Say hello to socialism.
So...what are you, a "thing" not a human of planet Earth?
originally posted by: xuenchen
What makes the differences/contrasts in government is the authoritarian policies necessary for a government's "success".
The more authority needed to keep a population in check is the problem.
Genuine Conservatives (not the Left Wing definitions of "Conservatives") don't rely or condone massive oppressive authoritarian policies.
Read Marx and figure it out.
originally posted by: GamleGamle
a reply to: MystikMushroom
Hihi you made me think of those meme pictures.
What the... think I do
What the.... Think I do
What I actually do and so on.
I think the OP in essence wishes to point out that people more often than not do not make the distinction between what people thought they were getting into and what actually transpired, but that message is getting a little skewed or is going sideways because it is clear he has some kind of axe to grind with socialism in general.
That is what I think
As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.[quote]