Muslims in Sweden Beat gay man to death

originally posted by: Mclaneinc
a reply to: ~Lucidity


.."and what is more bizarre here is that gay porn is one of the most Internet searched items in Radical Muslim countries ...

Is that true? wow..I will have to do some research about this, that is certainly very interesting, and disturbing;

There's around 53,786,600 or 57% of fundamentalist christians in america that want biblical law to replace the current judicial system. It's a law that advocates the killing of huge numbers under Leviticus and Deuteronomy specifically.

I did the maths on it...99,427,500 people in America would be killed as a result of biblical law being implemented including homosexuals, people of other religions and people who cheat on their spouses which totalled is 31.3% of the US population... even the most inflated figures put Islamic radicalisation at 10%-15% of the total Muslim population of the world. Those figures didn't include witches, psychics and the daughters of priests that are whores which I strangely couldn't find any numbers for. Yet sharia is supposedly the issue of the day when there's not even enough muslims in america to make it a passing threat much less a reality and they have nowhere near the same lobbying power as fundamentalist christians.

That's just domestically, it's also a law that fully advocates expansion into other nations where the same actions apply.

EVERYTHING fundamentalist christians use to paint islam as backwards, evil and intolerant are things either directly advocated, tolerated or perpetrated by fundamentalist christians themselves. I tried to find one thing they accused islam of that they don't engage in themselves and I couldn't find any. The only difference is under Sharia law other religions are allowed to exist, under biblical law there's no room for that.

If Americans can't see there's a bigger problem at home it's because they're wilfully ignorant.

originally posted by: tony9802

originally posted by: Mclaneinc
a reply to: ~Lucidity


.."and what is more bizarre here is that gay porn is one of the most Internet searched items in Radical Muslim countries ...

Is that true? wow..I will have to do some research about this, that is certainly very interesting, and disturbing;

Sadly true...Several Google sources that are ok will verify it..

originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015
There's around 53,786,600 or 57% of fundamentalist christians in america that want biblical law to replace the current judicial system. It's a law that advocates the killing of huge numbers under Leviticus and Deuteronomy specifically.

I think those very same Fundamentalist Xtians are actually proceeding with a proposed extermination plan: there is "Project Blue Beam" new-world-order-plan.org... and then there are the 501.3c churches that are planning on bringing massive numbers of people to various facilities throughout the nation, upon declaration formally of "marxxial laaww"..

I believe these extremist fundamentalists are forcing their rendition of "End Times" "Armegeddon", and the "Apocalypse" upon us, through the NWO and I would say that they wish to see the destruction of America in it's entirety, believing such destruction is ultimately "God's" will; Their agenda is clearly depopulation and in their eyes the completion and success of this agenda will constitute the fulfillment of God's prophecies, as they read and interpret them scripturally (a counterfeit interpretation of course..).

There goes your religion of peace folks!

As soon as I heard of the refugee situation, my thoughts were clashes between some very old values and new, western culture. The way young and up to middle aged women dress, Gay/trans a close second. You will hear from some Muslims that may say they don't agree/against their religion, but that attitude surfaces differently depending the crowd/company they are with. The larger percentage of refugees hitting Western Europe are 18 to 20- something year olds....there will be trouble, A LOT of trouble.
Touchy/feely countries let them do what they want and get all, "oh they're just lost right now", or "they just do things differently than us". Always writing off their beliefs can push them to do far more than our pc culture can accept. Just watch over the next 6 months. Call it a vision of you like, I personally think it's street sense.

a reply to: UnBreakable

You got stars for that comment, im saying that using a story that happened last summer and try to say its because some posters saying to muslim to kill the evil people out there, makes no sense.

thanks for coming out

Im probably a little late here but just saw this thread.
Im from Sweden, and this story is, well, bullsh*t.

Im sorry. Its a lie.


Didnt happen.

a reply to: alienDNA I don't understand why infowars is spreading so many lies these days? What's their agenda, because it certainly isn't spreading truthful information

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: alienDNA I don't understand why infowars is spreading so many lies these days? What's their agenda, because it certainly isn't spreading truthful information

I sometimes think that humanity has agents of misfortune and chaos who always seek to destabilise societies, groups and nations. They are perpetually pulling at the the threads that would bind us together and enjoy mayhem and misery. All the time, they point out our differences and can't see the common ground.

Infowars is like a reflection of that culture to me. It's all fear and panic with no answers. It's ethos is to have us all running around screaming from one existential threat to another. Hatred is a powerful fuel.

A gay guy invites two teenage boys in a park back to his flat for a meal ? Yeah, right.

I'm not confident his motives were entirely charitable, tbh, assuming this even happened at all. There's been so many cases of promiscuous gay guys being battered by nocturnal "straight acting" houseguests, I doubt whether them being Muslim has much to do with it.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

So what do you do? Just silently "oppose" it and mention that casually in posts on internet forums?

You must know there are many of us that have come to terms with that, no laws from government or religions will be adhered to by some people on issues of morality, they will do what they want, and that's ok, freedom of choice.
But don't expect us to applaud something we disagree with.

originally posted by: chuck258Of course Islamic apologists are going to go with the old "don't judge all Muslims" etc. etc.

Where are the manners and decorum here? If others dare to give their opinion and you don't like it, they are suddenly "Islamic apologists"? Hey, deny ignorance and all that

Now, about the incident: the sources that mention this are mostly tabloids. I read about this incident in "Expressen GT" - which has a centre-right political profile. Iit seems that a gay man was murdered in his appartment, and 2 boys (16 and 19) of Morrocan descent were arrested and accused of the murder. They have denied it so far.

The man was dressed as a woman. It is suggested this was done AFTER the murder, but it is entirely possible that this man dressed up as a woman and approached the boys. Now, perhaps these boys thought he WAS a woman and when "she" asked them to accompany "her" to "her" home, they did, possibly expecting to have sex with her. When they got to "her" appartment, "she" proved to be a man. The boys possibly freaked out and killed him. Morocco has a macho culture, with rigid gender roles. Hence, if others had ever found out that this "woman" was a man, they would have been severely disgraced. At best the laughing stock, at worst killed.

A murder was commited and should be punished. But I don't see any indications that this was a consequence of "the influx of refugees" (Morrocans have been coming to Europe for many, many decades, we have 3rd and 4th generation Moroccans in my country). Nor that it has somthing to do with "muslims" per sé (Morroco is strongly influenced by the Islam, but there are many Morrocans that aren't Muslims).

a reply to: woodwardjnr

You got me there. No clue.
I even had respect for Paul Watson until yesterday when I watched him host the Alex Jones show few days ago.
He was talking mad crazy shi* about sweden, and while some of it is touching the truth, the way he bends it, and the perspective he puts on it, is way off. Its so close to complete lies I lost all respect for the man.

Sweden is NOT what Infowars portrays it to be and I have NO CLUE why and what their agenda is regarding Swe.
I mean, first of all
1. Our highest polled political party is a party that want to reduce immigration by 90%
2. We have serious police at our borders stopping any and all illegal immigration.
3. We have battlecruisers in the sea around our costs to intercept any and all illegal immigration.
4. We have active and democratic debate about the immigration problem, and ANY EU-immigrant is automatically denied asylum.
5. Anyone who seeks asylum here must come from Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq or they will be denied asylum.

We are actually kinda strict and not that liberal at all, the way Paul and Alex wants to portray us.
I feel a bit sad because Ive followed both Paul and Alex for maaany years now, and been into the whole conspiracy thing for over 10 years (Im born in 1982) and learn to tell bull from possible truth.
For example I adore David Icke - He is right on so many levels, its just that he cannot actually prove it, which makes the whole thing troublesome for him.
But I guarantee you he is right, you can see into his soul when you listen and look at his lectures, documentarys, just his voice - there are no lies there.
Just proof is lacking - so I kinda just put mr Icke on hold until proof arrives.
So I consider myself a healthy open minded person that dont fall for crap, but open minded enough for the wildest theories at the same time.

So in between all that Ive learned by watching the Alex Jones Show - Im a little sad to hear them spread actual lies and fabrications.
The lies are based on facts - I give them that - but that is the same thing as me saying Im black, just because men was originally black - its absurd. Thats not how truth works.
Perhaps poor analogy but first thing to come to mind.
It even has a word - when you take a piece of truth - morph it and shape it into something that fits YOUR agenda - then lay it out like a piece of fact.

No sir, that is not going to play. I am not extremely active in listening to all our politicians speak because the rhetoric is always the same. It is aaaalways the same. Left is gonna be left, right is gonna be right. Its a neverending story.

But all this about the Immigrant crisis - sure, its true we take in massive amounts of immigrants - but 90% of them are actually fleeing from horrible situations, which is why we deny ANYONE not from Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq.
Of course, anyone violating this, lying, fake passsports and so forth, are immediately deported.
We even deport kids, that cause trouble because thats not very nice imo.

Kids are kids no matter their origin.
But must of us in Sweden actually are good people, who WANT to help these kids, and yes, it is mostly kids coming here, that we put in school - and we are building housings and more schools all the time, for all the immigrants and Id say we are doing the best job at it in the entire EU.

So give us some #ing creds instead of trying to flip it like we are some sort of liberal political correct pu**ified country, its just not true.
We are actually starting to seriously turn into a more restrictive and closed country, there was a huuuge debate, and our government actually made the decicion to CLOSE the bridge from Copenhagen to Malmoe - which is our only physical connection to the real world except if you go thru finland which is redundant info because that doesnt happen - and we also enforced mandatory ID checks at EVERY single possible way into this country.


So I really dont know where the heck , well, let me rephrase, I really dont know WHY the heck Paul Watson is creating lies from truth, and what his agenda is, because he was my fav "infowarrior", seemed more legitimate than Alex even, but after that show a few days ago - blatant lies.

Also he is wrong about the increased rape statistics from muslims - tbh I would actually call him pretty much racist at this point, because not only is he wrong, he is lying and pointing the finger at muslims.

I know several muslims and while I dont condone what the Koran says in many ways, most of them are exactly like Christians. i,e normal, working people, raising their kids, in a safe (still, at least) environment here in swe.

the thing that is the most effed up in swe right now, is that our political parties cannot agree on anything so sh*t is not done properly, for example, the petition our government sent to the proper authorities to handle such requests like closing an Intl bridge - and its no small bridge you cant walk over to copenhagen if thats what you think, they denied the petition because it was written poorly.

What a massive shame. They couldve said something about that. How we failed at our own petition to close the bridge. Or rather how the government failed in even creating the petition properly since it was denied.

That is just embarrassing, and true, and do americans know anything about that? That we actually tried to close our borders?

Nope I suppose not.

I guess thats not worthy news. I guess spreading lies about our immigration polices and the rape statistics are a more fun topic to lie about to get views.

I guess real truth isnt enough for Infowars anymore, they have to twist and morph it to suit their needs. I guess they think we are so stupid here in Sweden, and that we dont understand English , tbh I dont know what the heck they were thinking but for me, Infowars is now officially DEBUNKED by Sweden, and I think I can speak for my fellow swedes here aswell.

Alex and Crew Are Lying And It can Be Proven.

It is finally over for them, at least for me and hopefully many others will wake up to, that a man as intelligent as Alex and his crew aswell, obviously has the agenda of mixing truth with lies like classic CIA tactics.

Just another disinfo outlet.
Sad.

Who we got left for truth? Drudge? I fukin dont know, but im too old to listen to BS anymore , im just gonna watch local telly to see what is going on, and no, "mass"media in swe cant just lie to the people because we always call them out on it if they do.
So they dont even try.
We are probably a much more advanced country than at least inforwars seem to think.

Kinda insulting to hear all them lies from that Paul guy. I actually felt so mad i wanted to shook him and slap him on his face for saying what he said.

a reply to: alienDNA I've also disliked Watson, can't stand his voice and peevish demeanour. I think when I first started listening Alex Jones. I thought he had good intentions and was trying to give people truthful news, but I was wrong. He really promotes an agenda of fear that becomes an infomercial for his sponsors of survivalist products. He hates to be debated or hear an opposing voice, he won't even entertain opposition views on his show, choosing to call people shills, if they don't agree with him. He's become an embarrassment to those of us who take these issues seriously and approach issues with a justified skepticism

If you havent already , watch the series Homeland. Forget the first few seasons, those were mostly scifi, but this season, its crazy , its like im watching the news in a way.
it mirrors reality on a scary and fascinating way, and only minor details are changed, but we are all smart enough to see thru those changes, and it becomes a documentary. Im serious, if you havent already, watch the current season...
First few episodes gets slow but gets real good. Most interesting show atm , while waiting for mr.robot anyway, so yeah, if you skipped it, give the current season a shot. Its in almost every way a mirror of reality if you look closely behind the fiction part, its like watching what really goes down behind the scenes .
And since everything is real, in the show, like they use real names for real things, nothing is faked like that, you know when you watch a show and to not try and mirror reality the have fake names for everything, like "Metro City" or "Metropolitan City" and stuff like that for some random city thats usually New York - Homeland does it with all real names, places and events.

so my most humble recommendations to the current season of homeland.

im actually surprised it passed inspection and was let loose internationally. since its so close to how it actually is.
maybe thats what they want.

its not surprising that if they were to reveal truth, they would do it from hollywood. think about who owns hollywood, and the companies operating there. Everything is owned by a handful of people. Literally.

So either Homeland is just a really good show who just happens to mirror reality coincidentally - or its a way for them to tell us how it looks like behind the scenes. Behind the drone strikes. Behind the decisions. Behind the doubleagents. Behind the corruption and doublecrossing, and the big game of chess thats going on in the world

well either way, truth or fiction, Homeland, current season, Go.

originally posted by: PresidentCamacho
The religion of peace spreading more cheer and good will before the holidays!

So accepting and tolerant.

All these Muslims did is act upon what their religion and preachers teach. This IS part of their ideology. So where is the anti-gay military who always shows up to call religious people who don't like gays...monsters? Maybe you are having trouble bashing Muslims the same way you bash Catholics??? Maybe hypocritical?

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

All these Muslims did is act upon what their religion and preachers teach. This IS part of their ideology. ?

What about when a Christian or Catholic does same thing, all part of their ideology or just a few people using it as a reason to hate. To say that it speaks for all Muslims is wrong and would be like me saying all Christian/Catholics believe same thing.



Violence against gay people comes from both sides, don't ignore that.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

Yes, I would have to agree with you.
Sad times we live in - since Alex simply cannot be trusted.

There is also a possibility he has been fed the wrong information to discredit him.
Tiny possibility, but yet, a possibility.

Im sure as hell going to be alot more sceptic about anything coming from his "machine" he created..

Im also pretty sure David Knight has his own Agenda aswell, or perhaps they are just 'slaves' to Alex. I dont know.
But so far, I havent heard any actual lies coming from David Knight; so I still want to give him a chance.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKEAll these Muslims did is act upon what their religion and preachers teach.

ALL institutionalised religions are man-made and serve man, not God. It are men that call upon other men to kill men, to rape, murder and conquer. You should therefore not label just one institution, but simply observe that there are evil men that use various tactics to convince others to kill others.

This IS part of their ideology. So where is the anti-gay military who always shows up to call religious people who don't like gays...monsters? Maybe you are having trouble bashing Muslims the same way you bash Catholics??? Maybe hypocritical?

It does not really help much to bash anything. Those that are of another or no religion willl not feel they should change something as you are not addressing them. Those that are of the religion you're addressing won't change anything neither as you are clearly opposed to them - and given they are the Only True Religion (of course) you are merely part of the evil forces that try to push them of the right track. Vade retro, satanas!

So, stop bashing. It is quite useless anyway, as we are all sitting here comfortably behind our various computerscreesn, most likely in the comfort of our mostly quite well provided houses. If you want to change something, do as Covey said: ask yourself what YOU can do. That's about the reach of control for most humans.