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Just Revealed: Roman Sword Reportedly Found Off Oak Island

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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 11:57 AM
Pinging this thread for sure...

I've been fascinated by the Oak Island mystery for many many years now. I think this island pulls at all our childhood strings of mystery/treasure/exploration/etc.. It's like the Goonies got older!!

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 12:43 PM
a reply to: Bearack

the article said they ran tests on the sword and it contained lead and other metals characteristic of Roman swords... perhaps the green color isn't from copper but from the hundreds of years in salt water?

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 01:21 PM
Yeah, a younger me really wanted to find out what was buried on Oak Island (and know what was up with Rennes Le Chateau)... and the older me still does.

So... when are we going to pool our monies and damn out the ocean and dig it up?
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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 01:40 PM
Quite interesting. I record all airings and, like you all, are too curious to not follow the series. But a new question emerges from Oak Island. And that is...."who" was NOT there to bury their secrets from the world? Oak Island must be the most popular secret spot to hide all mysteries! They hint the Aztec's are involved. Vikings, Knights Templar, Masons, Aztecs and now Romans. Next it will be evidence the Chinese invented gun powder there. I expect to hear Jimmy Hoffa is buried there. Maybe there is evidence Geraldo Rivera is lurking behind the bushes looking for Capone's fortune. Or...i would not be surprised to see "Jesus killed a bear here" etched into the bark of a very old Oak tree there.

Regardless, I'm too curious to abandon the series. Actually, it sets the mood for the next program that seems more worthy of my interests. "Hunting Hitler" may be the ultimate mystery needing to be solved. I never bought into the idea he died in the bunker fighting the Russians. He was too much a chicken# to do that. They imply he had to be drugged to leave the bunker. Yeah...right! Next we will hear Hitler hired the Aztecs to scurry his ass out of the frying pan. Regardless, it's high time we get the real story of his disappearance. Even if the prove beyond a doubt he fled the scene, it will be only half the truth for i think there is proof the Fed. govt. was aware of the fact and may have been involved in his success.

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 04:13 PM
From the OP source:

#1 "A shipwreck, believed to be Roman, was found off Oak Island, and within the wreck a well-preserved Roman ceremonial sword was retrieved."

# 2 "Pulitzer told the Boston Standard that the sword was hauled onto a fishing boat decades ago, but was kept secret because the finder and his son feared they would be punished due to strict laws in Nova Scotia regarding retrieving treasures from shipwrecks."

#1.... This sentence is total BS: This sentence would have you believe that an archaeological dive had been performed and this sword was attained as a result of that. The so-called "truth".... the sword was snagged in a fishing trawler net decades ago... NOT from "within the wreck". There is not one single shred of evidence that a roman boat exists except out of the mouth you know who.

#2....More evidence why sentence #1 is totally false and misleading and more evidence that you really can't believe anything Pulitzer says.

These BS stories always follow a general pattern,,,,, xxx was found by zzz decades ago, but now zzz is dead and you just have to trust what I tell you is true.

There is no way to verify a single thing made in this claim.

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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 05:32 PM

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Thanks to summers spent with my autodidact grandmother and the eclectic assemblage of books and periodicals in her private library, I was introduced at a young age to what is often referred to as "Fortean phenomena." The Oak Island Mystery was in fact my very first exposure. So it was with great interest that I looked forward to the airing of the The Curse of Oak Island and despite the lack of substantive discoveries and the often dubious characters who make appearances on the show, I've stuck with it.

Now it appears that an upcoming episode will feature what is alleged to be a previous find that has gone unreported and if true, would not only change the theories surrounding Oak Island but rewrite world history — which makes me highly skeptical — but nonetheless interested.

Ancient Origins - Roman Sword discovered off Oak Island radically suggests Ancient Mariners visited New World 1,000 years before Columbus

Researchers investigating the mysterious Oak Island, located on the south shore of Nova Scotia, Canada, have made a startling announcement regarding the discovery of a Roman ceremonial sword and what is believed to be a Roman shipwreck, radically suggesting that ancient mariners visited North America more than a thousand years before Columbus.

Evidence of the finding, which was exclusively revealed to Johnston Press and published in The Boston Standard, was uncovered by researchers involved in The History Channel’s series Curse of Oak Island, which details the efforts of two brothers from Michigan as they attempt to solve the mystery of the Oak Island treasure and discover historical artifacts believed to be concealed on the island.

J. Hutton Pulitzer, lead researcher and historic investigator, along with academics from the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society, have compiled a paper on the finding, which is scheduled to be published in full in early 2016.

Let me just pause here to say that J. Hutton Pulitzer is an interesting character to say the least. Inventor of the notoriously failed barcode reader, the CueCat (which RadioShack resorted to giving away), the man who was then known by his birth name, J. Jovan Philyaw, is now a treasure hunter and author of books on "forbidden archaeology."

While most treasure hunters have ended up empty handed, a recent revelation points to an incredible, and possibly history-changing, finding. A shipwreck, believed to be Roman, was found off Oak Island, and within the wreck a well-preserved Roman ceremonial sword was retrieved.

Pulitzer told the Boston Standard that the sword was hauled onto a fishing boat decades ago, but was kept secret because the finder and his son feared they would be punished due to strict laws in Nova Scotia regarding retrieving treasures from shipwrecks.

However, relatives of the finder, who is now deceased, recently came forward to reveal the precious sword to researchers.
Pulitzer carried out tests on the sword, using an XRF analyser, which revealed that the sword contained the same metallic properties, with traces of arsenic and lead, that match other Roman artifacts.

According to Pulitzer, the wreck has been located and scanned and though not properly surveyed, he's certain beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it's definitely Roman. The article also mentions the involvement of Dr. Carl L. Johannessen, Professor Emeritus, University of Oregon (who has a MA in zoology and a PhD in geography).

Other alleged evidence in support of this Roman hypothesis:

- Petroglyphs carved on cave walls and boulders in Nova Scotia by the indigenous Mi’kmaq people, which depict what Pulitzer’s team believe to be Roman soldiers marching with their swords, and Roman ships.
- Fifty words in the Mi’kmaq language that are nautical terms used by mariners from Roman times.
- An invasive species of plant (Berberis Vulgaris) growing on Oak Island and in Halifax, which was once used by Romans to season their food and prevent scurvy on their voyages.
- A Roman legionnaire’s whistle found on Oak Island in 1901
- A metal ‘boss’ from the center of a Roman shield found in Nova Scotia in the mid-1800s
- Gold Roman Carthage coins found on the mainland near Oak Island
- Two carved stones on Oak Island that Pulitzer says displays a language from the ancient Levant.

I'm no expert in metallurgy or marine archaeology (or Roman antiquities or really much of anything non-IT related
) but that sword looks awfully well preserved for supposedly having sat on the bottom of the ocean for 1500 years or so.

What do you think ATS?

Vikings came here far befor columbus

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 06:13 PM
Maybe the Romans gave Columbus a ride.

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 06:18 PM
What does this have to do with the Curse of Oak Island TV show? It's never been on there so far, and they never actually endorsed this guy's theories when he was on as a guest a couple times.

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 07:54 PM
I'll be interested to see some professional analysis of the sword.

It just doesn't look right.

I do think that America had many visitors going back a very long time.

My family is from the south shore of Lake Superior in a copper rich area and there are many stories about mining going on there long before historians say it was possible.

The oceans were not barriers to ancient man, they were highways.

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 08:46 PM
Don't blame the History Channel and crew for this. They were told about it and obviously did not want it connected with them. I am certain they know some of the past history of this group and all the flags went up.

I still think the sword is bronze. Bronze casts better than copper, and how to cast it is covered in most large art schools, like Mass. College of Art. They did say that initial tests showed lead and other metals, which pure copper would not contain, plus copper is not what early Romans used anyway before they adopted iron and steel, it was Bronze. Bronze is mostly copper and would patina with a green tinge, however they could really speed that process up with some weak acid baths, which is probably what they did. IMHO.

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:01 PM
This is a hoax, you can buy this replica sword on ebay and amazon. It is based on a Roman sword held in a German museum. The hoaxer (Pulitzer) must have bought one of these replica's and tried to bamboozle the History channel show. IMO that show has lost all credibility, not that it had much to begin with.

Design Toscano Gladiator's Sword of Pompeii

Edit to add:
J. Hutton Pulitzer Alleges a Roman Sword Was Found Off Oak Island Several Decades Ago (
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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:09 PM
a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Here we go again,salting of historical sites, I think there should be liable laws against this kind of practice..sigh!

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:10 PM

originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
This is a hoax,

you are a day late to the party
someone posted that link yesterday

posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:14 PM
a reply to: Marduk

Day late, dollar short, story of my life lol.

posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 03:57 AM
If you read the comments at the bottom of the article in this link a private investigator brings up some very good points, also someone mentioned this sword is in a British museum which would fit with it being photographed on a British newspaper.
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posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 04:45 AM
Aha, now that he has been made aware of all the other identical swords popping out of the woodwork, Pulitzer is saying that his needs more tests to confirm its genuine.

Now , what remains to be seen is if it is metal? Bronze? Plastic? or Pewter? LOL and there even different colors available as you can see. Amazing! just amazing
As for the sword owned by the Lagina’s and Oak Islands Tours? More tests are called for and that sword with the other two known to be in private collections or museums are shall we say “an ancient metal DNA match”. Will be interesting to test the new ones that popped up overnight and see what their angle is?
As opposed to what he originally said

Pulitzer carried out tests on the sword, using an XRF analyser, which revealed that the sword contained the same metallic properties, with traces of arsenic and lead, that match other Roman artifacts

So he's been busted and knows it and is also claiming that these new swords were created on photoshop and are a scam to make money from his find

I think we have discovered the truth Mr Pulitzer and the truth is, you are a fraudster

posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 08:16 AM
JUST when it was getting good.

Folks, if it's too good to be true.... you know the drill.

posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 08:42 AM
From a Reddit thread:

This guy. This guy's actual name is Jeffry Philyaw. He is the creator of the CueCat (remember that?). He makes a living off of suing others for infringing on the patents he owns (also known as "patent trolling").
He also tried to produce and star in a show called Treasure Force.. During the production of this show (that was never broadcast), he'd often plant human bones that the cast would "uncover." He would dangle his cast over a "snakepit" that was put together by a professional wrangler. He would plant gold nuggets for the cast to "discover." I would go into more detail, but I'm truly worried about a lawsuit being thrown at me.
Now he's on "The Curse of Oak Island" which makes that show a complete joke.
There's not much legitimate about him. From my experience, I'm led to believe that this is a plant. Either by him or the people he works with.

The thread:

posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 08:49 AM
Great job guys, it's why I come to ATS. I haven't watched the show but it makes you wonder, with all their resources they couldn't spot the hoax nearly as quickly as ATS. Further still, they are excited to present this abomination on their TV show.

Well wonders never cease.

Marduk, Byrd

posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 11:48 AM
This thing is making its rounds of Facebook too and I have mixed emotions about it. Ive been interested in Oak Island for 30 years and have even had the pleasure of having a coffee with Dan Blankenship a very long time ago where I got to pick his brain a bit.
As others have already noted this story just wreaks of bs. Buddy is well known to be full of it. I have mixed emotions though because I am hoping this gives more press to Oak Island. In the event that something concrete is found there that predates Colombus then the whole world will be watching so they cant just brush it under the rug.

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