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originally posted by: madenusa
The proof is all right before our very eyes patriots.
Many of these refugees are ruthless jihads.
Are we willing risk the safety of our citizens, our children and families to help these people?
I for one am not.
Look, they got the $h*t end of the stick but someone had to get it.
It’s one thing to be compassionate, but it’s another to be stupid.
I say leave them in their own countries. We WILL rescue them in the end.
As soon as we get a president who is willing to wipe this ISIS scum off the face of the planet their problems will be solved.
Of course, I don’t know how well vegetables will grow in NUCLEAR CONTAMINATED SAND but we’ll see.
Maybe they’ll grow twice as fast and we can solve their hunger problem at the same time.
originally posted by: ElectricFeel
When I visited Auschwitz a few years ago, our tour guide pointed to an open area and said, 'One of the rules of the camp was that any prisoner who escaped would have his family members brought here and executed, as a warning to the rest of the prisoners. That (pointing) was where they would carry out those executions.'
Yesterday, Trump and co., with the utmost callousness imaginable, defended the notion that terrorists' families should be 'dealt with' as a deterrent to terrorism.
I wonder, Mr. Trump, whether you would extend the same 'privilege' to mass-shooters, the vast majority of whom are white, Christian, males. The number of people who die from gun violence in this country is exponentially more (hundreds of thousands over the last decade) than the 45 or so who have died as a result of 'jihadist radicals' in the same amount of time. So, clearly, the far bigger threat facing America comes from other segments of society.
Would you also suggest as a deterrent that their wives and children 'be dealt with'? Or is it the case that you feel skin colors and religions redefine the norms of justice?
It is truly terrifying to see mainstream leaders and presidential candidates talk so brazenly, to the cheers and clapping of mobs who would willingly and enthusiastically support Nazi tactics because they have been brainwashed and terrorized by a modern breed of fascist demagogues.
It is not the radical jihadists I fear. It is the Radical Right.
The sad reality is that the current climate of Islamophobia is not even meant to directly target Muslims! In other words, it's not emanating from a religious hatred, much less an existential threat (less people die from 'radical jihadist attacks' in America than people who are killed by accidents with their furniture).
The fact of the matter is that this climate is being intentionally stoked for political gains. Certain members of the Republican party need to promote a false narrative: that the Democrats in general, and Obama in particular, is soft on the threat of 'radical Islam' in N. America. Therefore, they greatly exaggerate this threat, smear the Democrats for not doing enough, and then claim that *they* will be the knight in shining armor who shall save the damsel of liberty from the clutches of those evil Mozlem barbarians.
The American Muslim community, are merely a sacrificial pawn in a far more sinister game of political chess.
Unfortunately, because they have been chosen as the sacrificial pawn, many millions of Americans genuinely believe that rhetoric, and the hate crimes will indeed spiral until this election season is over.
This also explains Trump's antics perfectly: he needs to demonize the Muslim community, and then proclaim that *he* shall save America from this non-existent threat.
Truth shall always prevail over falsehood in the end. I just hope and pray that no lives are lost at the hands of the Far Right as the level of hate and paranoia continues to rise to ever-alarming levels.
originally posted by: Jobeycool
This thread is typical liberal trashing of conservatives who are actualy their freinds.Bunch of nonsense and shows how much division is in the U.S.
If you trust the radical muslim world over conservatives you have to be insane or plain ole stupid.Typical liberal crap.
originally posted by: theonenonlyone
So far from that side we have them trying to take away a women's right to choose,
originally posted by: theonenonlyone
to control another persons ability to get married ie..gay marriage,
originally posted by: theonenonlyone
an attempt to instill religion into politics,
originally posted by: theonenonlyone
get rid of Obamacare, even though the people have spoken through votes..TWICE...
originally posted by: theonenonlyone
would support Military coup if it would get them control of government
originally posted by: theonenonlyone
and want to take away the rights of Muslim Americans out of fear.
originally posted by:
Scatfu
Obama going after Gun companies, Yale suppressing freedom of speech etc etc. The totalitarians are on the Left pal. Wake up.
originally posted by: Bennyzilla
a reply to: ElectricFeel
You make a big point about "Mass Shooters" and how they're all white males, but fail to touch on the fact that a huge majority % of the gun crime in this country is done by African Americans against other African Americans. So right off the bat anyone who's paying attention knows you don't care about the real facts, just your agenda.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: ElectricFeel
If you knew your family members would be killed for your actions, would you commit the crime?
Many are probably committing the act because their family members were killed.
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: SonOfThor
a reply to: ElectricFeel
1) Where is your evidence that the "majority of mass shooters were white Christian males"? From what I've read many of them leaned more towards atheism or anarchy, or were non-religious.
2) By immediately mentioning the "hundreds of thousands" of gun crime victims following this statement about white males, you are implying that white Christian males are a major source of gun crime. As others have pointed out this is patently false based on FBI data. Most gun crime is a result of gang violence or the war on drugs.
3) You say the far right is demonizing a whole group of people (Muslims) and that "Truth shall prevail over falsehood in the end". Well, the radical left demonizes a whole group of people (legal gun owners) even after mass shootings that are known to be terrorist / jihad inspired events.
If truth is to prevail you would have to acknowledge that the whole Islamaphobia narrative that you fear is exactly what the left does with their hoplophobic, anti-gun narrative.
source
Most mass shooters are white, Christian males. If you want more stats or links, I can provide them.
Legal gun owners should be fine. But so many of their guns end up in the hands of unstable family members and friends. That is one issue that should be solved.