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Melting steel?
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originally posted by: skyeagle409
The reason why many people don't accept molten steel at ground zero is because that story was fabricated.
Just a very partial list of the people you say fabricated the molten steel story.
All say, there were molten pools, and molten flowing streams.
Dr. Keith Eaton.
Greg Fuchek.
Sarah Atlas.
"Toolie" O'Toole.
chaplain Herb Trimpe.
Alison Geyh.
Ron Burger.
And would you believe, Leslie Robertson.
Of course you have already been reminded of many of the firemen's statements.
edit on 17-12-2015 by smurfy because: Text.
originally posted by: wildb
The objects in the photos are compacted floors, not solified molten concrete, which was never in a molten state in the first place.
Seems it was..
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Yep, and...it looks like there is rust there too!
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: wildb
There was no Pancaking...
Fine.
I will edit my post to 'building collapse'.
They did collapse, I am pretty certain.
The best term is disintegrate..
edit on 17-12-2015 by wildb because: (no reason given)
a reply to: smurfy
Show me evidence where those people are experienced at identifying metals in a molten state. As an example of what I am talking about, which photo depicts molten steel?
Photo 1: Molten Metal
Photo 2: Molten Metal
Photo 3: Molten Metal
Now, compare the molten metals in the photos.
Show me evidence where those people are experienced at identifying metals in a molten state. As an example of what I am talking about, which photo depicts molten steel?
Photo 1: Molten Metal
Photo 2: Molten Metal
Photo 3: Molten Metal
Now, compare the molten metals in the photos.
edit on 17-12-2015 by skyeagle409 because: (no reason given)
a reply to: wildb
Your videos were debunked years ago because they do not depict the characteristics of demolition explosions. Now, let's take a look at your reference, David Chandler.
Your videos were debunked years ago because they do not depict the characteristics of demolition explosions. Now, let's take a look at your reference, David Chandler.
David Chandler
Chandler made the same mistake in an earlier video:...
screwloosechange.blogspot.com...
edit on 17-12-2015 by skyeagle409 because: (no reason given)
a reply to: smurfy
In your link, it said:
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the intact guns, which retained their shaped when found, proved that the so-called: "WTC object" was not subject to temperatures anywhere near the melting point of steel. In other words, the guns would not have retained their shaped at such temperatures and would have not have been recognizable as such since they would have been reduced to solidified molten globs, something like this:
Photo of Solidfied Molten Steel
In your link, it said:
9-11: DISPLAY OF POLICE GUNS FOUND WITH MELTED CONCRETE IN THE RUINS OF THE WTC"
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the intact guns, which retained their shaped when found, proved that the so-called: "WTC object" was not subject to temperatures anywhere near the melting point of steel. In other words, the guns would not have retained their shaped at such temperatures and would have not have been recognizable as such since they would have been reduced to solidified molten globs, something like this:
Photo of Solidfied Molten Steel
Your videos were debunked years ago because they do not depict the characteristics of demolition explosions.
There videos of the buildings coming down, how does one debunk that.. your a funny guy.
As for chandler I'm debunking your videos because their not there..
a reply to: wildb
Of course the floors of the WTC buildings pancaked, which is clearly indicated by the squibs the collapsing floors are producing.
Additionally:
Of course the floors of the WTC buildings pancaked, which is clearly indicated by the squibs the collapsing floors are producing.
Additionally:
It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion, but I guess it was just the floors starting to pancake one on top of the other.
www.911myths.com...
a reply to: wildb
Because there was no sound of explosions as the WTC buildings collapsed and seismic monitors did not detect demolition explosions, which explains why no evidence of explosives was ever found in the WTC rubble.
In other words, the claim that explosives were used to demolish the WTC buildings was a fabrication and I might add that explosives and thermite/thermate do not leave behind molten metal for hours, much less days, weeks or even months.
There videos of the buildings coming down, how does one debunk that.. your a funny guy.
Because there was no sound of explosions as the WTC buildings collapsed and seismic monitors did not detect demolition explosions, which explains why no evidence of explosives was ever found in the WTC rubble.
In other words, the claim that explosives were used to demolish the WTC buildings was a fabrication and I might add that explosives and thermite/thermate do not leave behind molten metal for hours, much less days, weeks or even months.
edit on 17-12-2015 by skyeagle409 because:
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Because there was no sound of explosions as the WTC buildings collapsed
Yes there was and they were posted here many times.. so other members know..
and seismic monitors did not detect demolition explosions
Yes there were , Again, posted here on ATS many times...
which explains why no evidence of explosives was ever found in the WTC rubble.
It was never looked for by NIST, others looked and found...
In other words, the claim that explosives were used to demolish the WTC buildings was a fabrication
You cannot fabricate reality, video, audio and whiteness testimony as well as simple physics all support controlled demo.
yes I remember reading the thread on the seismic data,good point alot of people seem to overlook eh.
a reply to: wildb
What do you see embedded in the following photo that debunks claims the so-called "9/11 metorites" were molten concrete and steel that reach temperatures of over 3000 degrees F.?
Photo: 9/11 Meteorite
Seems it was..
What do you see embedded in the following photo that debunks claims the so-called "9/11 metorites" were molten concrete and steel that reach temperatures of over 3000 degrees F.?
Photo: 9/11 Meteorite
a reply to: wildb
You are well-aware that you claim has been debunked time and time again and here is the proof. Post the time line in the following video where explosions are heard.
Now, compare your explosion time lines with the available seismic data here.
WTC 1 and WTC 2 Seismic Data
To sum it up, you have no case for demolition explosives at ground zero.
Yes there was and they were posted here many times.. so other members know..
You are well-aware that you claim has been debunked time and time again and here is the proof. Post the time line in the following video where explosions are heard.
Now, compare your explosion time lines with the available seismic data here.
WTC 1 and WTC 2 Seismic Data
To sum it up, you have no case for demolition explosives at ground zero.
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: smurfy
In your link, it said:
9-11: DISPLAY OF POLICE GUNS FOUND WITH MELTED CONCRETE IN THE RUINS OF THE WTC"
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the intact guns, which retained their shaped when found, proved that the so-called: "WTC object" was not subject to temperatures anywhere near the melting point of steel. In other words, the guns would not have retained their shaped at such temperatures and would have not have been recognizable as such since they would have been reduced to solidified molten globs, something like this:
Photo of Solidfied Molten Steel
Your a very naughty boy, it's not my link, and besides, the rust I refer to is on the concrete.
a reply to: wildb
That video has been debunked as well because it was later determined that the explosions heard had nothing to do with explosives.
They also heard such sounds more than an hour after the WTC buildings collapsed. Molten aluminum and water are a highly explosive and in abundance at ground zero and firefighters indicated that the sound of explosions they heard had nothing to do with explosives.
Nothing there about bombs or explosives.
That video has been debunked as well because it was later determined that the explosions heard had nothing to do with explosives.
They also heard such sounds more than an hour after the WTC buildings collapsed. Molten aluminum and water are a highly explosive and in abundance at ground zero and firefighters indicated that the sound of explosions they heard had nothing to do with explosives.
Craig Carlsen: Firefighter
...there were about ten explosions...At the time I didn't realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit.
graphics8.nytimes.com...
Nothing there about bombs or explosives.
edit on 17-12-2015 by skyeagle409 because: (no reason given)
To sum it up, you have no case for demolition explosives at ground zero.
Seems I do...
edit on 17-12-2015 by wildb because: (no reason given)
edit on 17-12-2015 by wildb because: (no reason
given)
A new eyewitness who was working in the WTC on 9/11 has gone on record to describe how he heard multiple grenade-like explosions around the basement levels of the north tower, backing up William Rodriguez' story, the WTC janitor who reported explosions before the first plane hit the tower. Anthony Saltalamacia was a morning supervisor who managed over a hundred workers in the twin towers. He worked closely with WTC janitor William Rodriguez, eyewitness to sub-level explosions that occurred before the impact of the first plane in the north tower and representative for many 9/11 victim's families.
sub-level explosions that occurred before the impact of the first plane
www.bushstole04.com...