Melting steel?

It has been known that the impacts dislodged fire protection from the steel structures of the WTC Towers which left them exposed to temperatures that weakens steel.

Yeah, so what..

At time line 4:21 in your video, that is undeniable evidence that fire annealed that steel beam into that horseshoe shape, which can be done at temperatures as low as 1000 degrees F. I know, because I have softened (annealed) aerospace steels as such temperatures.

You say you have done a lot of things, again so what, your propaganda is worthless...your word won't buy you a cup of coffee.. your opinion is just that, 110 story building hits the ground in ten seconds just like a brick would falling through thin air and you expect us to believe gravity did that... ROFLMAO...

In other words, you can't allow any unauthorized person to come into an area of interest and remove anything that pertains to an investigation.

Yet the Gov did just that... wow..

a reply to: wildb

From you link.

“It’s very doubtful that Muslims were behind 9/11. Think about this for one minute: That President Bush’s family had done business with the family of the man who allegedly made the terrorist attack, Osama Bin Laden

Now, for the rest of the story.

Family in U.S. Cut Off Ties to bin Laden

Across America, most people harbor nothing but ill will toward Osama bin Laden, the man President Bush has named the prime suspect behind last week's attacks. Yet two of his brothers and other close family members live quietly in the very country that was the target of bin Laden's fury.

Osama bin Laden, the 17th of 53 siblings, comes from a wealthy family whose construction business handled billion-dollar infrastructure projects in their native Saudi Arabia. After family patriarch, Sheik Mohammed bin Laden died in 1968, each child inherited an estimated $500 million. Osama bin Laden, exiled from Saudi Arabia, is believed to have used his millions to bankroll terrorist training camps in Sudan, the Philippines and Afghanistan, where he resides, and other nations. But his siblings in America have forged very different paths.

One brother, Mohammed bin Laden, owns several luxury waterfront condos at Flagship Wharf in Boston that sell for $500,000 and up. Another brother, Abdullah bin Laden lives in Cambridge, Mass.

At least one bin Laden family member attended Harvard University. There is no evidence that the bin Ladens who live in the United States have had any contact with Osama bin Laden. They appear to have severed all ties to him years ago. The bin Laden siblings were born of at least a dozen different mothers.

Disowned by Family Patriarch

This week, in Saudi Arabia, the patriarch of the bin Laden family, Sheikh Abdullah bin Laden, Osama's uncle, publicly denounced him.

"They condemn the act. They condemn terrorism and they disavow any connections to Osama," said Adfil Najam, a professor of international studies at Boston University said.

It is not the first time Osama bin Laden's relatives have distanced themselves from their notorious family member. His relatives also denounced him after the 1998 terrorist attacks on U.S. embassies in Africa — attacks for which Osama bin Laden has been indicted in U.S. federal court.

abcnews.go.com...

Remember, you can't judge a book by its cover.

a reply to: wildb

it was a criminal investigation and it was their job to seal off the area, to do otherwise, would have been unacceptable.

More Propaganda from the sky guy, MSM sources, PM, as well as all the rest as to the OS are worth nothing. I hope some day he figures that out..

a reply to: wildb

Yeah, so what..

It is proof that fire within the WTC buildings had weakened their steel structures to the point of failure.

a reply to: wildb

That won't fly and as proof, where are those time lines that I have asked for? Why are you stalling?

It is proof that fire within the WTC buildings had weakened their steel structures to the point of failure.

So What, it does not explain the rest..

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

That won't fly and as proof, where are those time lines that I have asked for? Why are you stalling?

What, really, maybe you should read the thread before you post, your making a fool of yourself..

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

it was a criminal investigation and it was their job to seal off the area, to do otherwise, would have been unacceptable.

Destroying, removing evidence is unacceptable and illegal..

a reply to: wildb

So What, it does not explain the rest..

It proves my point that fire, in conjunction with impact damage, was responsible for the destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2, WTC 7, and fire alone for the internal collapse of WTC 5.

a reply to: wildb

What, really, maybe you should read the thread before you post, your making a fool of yourself..

That won't fly. Perhaps I should point out your own post in that regard?!

a reply to: skyeagle409

You can't tamper with modelling data. It's just that, data. Data that hasn't been made available to the public.

a reply to: wildb

Destroying, removing evidence is unacceptable and illegal..

Where is your evidence there was illegal activity at ground zero as far as evidence is concerned? Remember, no evidence, and you have no case.

It proves my point that fire, in conjunction with impact damage, was responsible for the destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2, WTC 7, and fire alone for the internal collapse of WTC 5.

No not, wtc 5 looking to open a can of worms..lol

Where is your evidence there was illegal activity at ground zero as far as evidence is concerned? Remember, no evidence, and you have no case.

Lack of procedure is evidence in and of it self..

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

You can't tamper with modelling data. It's just that, data. Data that hasn't been made available to the public.

Much data has already been publicized and we can take a look here as well.

a reply to: wildb

Where's your evidence? Post it here for all to see.

a reply to: wildb

No not, wtc 5 looking to open a can of worms..lol

That won't fly either because the internal collapse of WTC 5 due to fire only has proven my case about the ability of fire to weaken exposed steel structures of buildings to the point of failure.

a reply to: skyeagle409

We don't have their modelling input data. They could be inputting literally anything to coerce the software into showing those animations. Beam lengths off by centimeters, fire temperatures increased by a few hundred degrees Celsius, so on so forth.

Look, I won't debate what you've posted. Let us just assume you're right for the sake of discussion. NIST not releasing their data is STILL absolutely unacceptable.