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Your a Nazi! No YOUR a Nazi! No You are. No YOU ARE!

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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:03 PM
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originally posted by: Tiamat384
*Rises* I'm a Nazi. *Looks around* Oh we're not doing that..? We're not, oh, ok, never mind then.
It's a common insult. Well, not as common as others, but it's there.


Well your taking the first step to recovery you'll be all right




posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: MystikMushroom

"It's Time to Change America"- Bill Clinton Campaign Slogan
"A Stronger America"- John Forbes Kerry
"Let America be America Again"- John Forbes Kerry

But, to redirect your misguided attempt at connecting Trump to Hitler, Ronald Reagan used the same slogan when he ran against Carter for the same reasons as Trump is using it today: America looked like ass at the time and the American future was pretty muddled. Trump lifted the slogan off of Reagan for two reasons:
1. He's channeling the spirit of the GOP's greatest modern icon
2. He's channeling the very real belief that America WAS the greatest nation on Earth and can (and should) return to that position. The fact that we've experienced 7 years of a Cuckoo bird SNIPping down the backs of our collective necks while talking about how little he felt of American exceptionalism, America before it elected him, and American traditional beliefs will tend to make the human desire to be important experience a grand resurgence.

Had zilch to do with Hitler and Nazi Germany and everything to do with the past 7 years of malaise and self depreciation.


I've noticed the Democrats always want change the Republicans always want strength. So I guess Democrats think amarica is bigots and racists that needs their guidance and needs to change. And Republicans think amarica is weak and without them we would be cowering in a corner.

And people wonder why I became an independent.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:49 PM
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posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 12:00 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr
I meant it as a joke
But wait, what recovery, recovery from what?



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 12:15 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
I don't think we can say that any one politician is a Nazi or even close. But we can point-out tactics and rhetoric that is similar to those used by Nazis.

There is no mistake that certain politicians and media outlets deserve the comparison and what they are doing is dangerous.


This right here is corrrrrect!! I'm personally sick of all of the crying from various sides every time their personal favorite 1984-style fascist is called a Nazi, or compared to Hitler. There's good reason for it, with politicians across the spectrum in the US (not all, just most.)

You'll regularly see arguments like "Hitler killed millions of non-combatants." Apparently the fact their "Fav Fascist" hasn't yet been responsible for the deaths of millions is supposed to negate any otherwise completely valid comparison.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 12:45 AM
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a reply to: dogstar23

Except for the fact that those accusation amount to little more than emotionally driven hyperbole. By all means, if you think a particular politician is an asshole tyrant, call them such, but let's not diminish the brutality and horror of the Third Reich by comparing modern events or people to them. It's as misplaced as saying Oscar Pistorius is a modern Jack the Ripper.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 01:03 AM
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To suggest both Left and Right are equally Hitler-ish... is extending an olive branch to the right, and disingenuously accepting left is just as bad.

I'm sorry but Hitler is not hated today because he forced people to register their guns, or because he wanted to give Germans affordable healthcare, or equal rights, or because of his environmental or economic policies.

It's the mass murder. The holocaust. The rounding up of the Jews. The extreme nationalism and propaganda. The invasions. And the creepy blind followers who thought all that horrible stuff was okay to keep Germany safe.

We all know which party most resembles those horrible traits... but sure, let's just say both sides are equally bad. That way no one's feelings get hurt.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 01:09 AM
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I think if the "right" wants to compare a Democrat to some kind of tyrannical dictator, they ought to be comparing them to communist leaders like Stalin or Lenin. You never see that though. It would make more sense, as the Democratic party shares more more in common with communism than the Nazi party.

I mean, my goodness ... McCarthyism...I thought communists were almost as vehemently hated as Nazis anyway? What gives?

I'd still argue that Obama isn't anything close to Stalin or Lenin...but it would a more appropriate line of arguing. If the GOP candidates have more in common with fascist Nazi ideologies, then Democrats have more in common with tyrannical communist ideologies.

And the real kicker -- both are just as bad as the other. When you go that far on the spectrum, you almost go full circle and meet yourself coming from the opposite direction.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 04:07 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: neo96

Did the Nazi's want smaller government or bigger government?

Did the Nazi's push for more individual freedoms and liberties, or less?

Then ask yourself what candidates espouse those attributes.


Well seeing as trump is definitely not for small government. .....



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 04:19 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: MystikMushroom




Exactly. "Make America Great Again" is very similar to what Hitler promised the German people.


Yes We Can.

Hope and Change.

Forward.



Which makes it even more stupid people support trump.

You already voted in one clown based on empty slogans and rhetoric and obama didnt turn out to well did he?
So why will the great trump be any different?



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 04:26 AM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: MystikMushroom

"It's Time to Change America"- Bill Clinton Campaign Slogan
"A Stronger America"- John Forbes Kerry
"Let America be America Again"- John Forbes Kerry

But, to redirect your misguided attempt at connecting Trump to Hitler, Ronald Reagan used the same slogan when he ran against Carter for the same reasons as Trump is using it today: America looked like ass at the time and the American future was pretty muddled. Trump lifted the slogan off of Reagan for two reasons:
1. He's channeling the spirit of the GOP's greatest modern icon
2. He's channeling the very real belief that America WAS the greatest nation on Earth and can (and should) return to that position. The fact that we've experienced 7 years of a Cuckoo bird SNIPping down the backs of our collective necks while talking about how little he felt of American exceptionalism, America before it elected him, and American traditional beliefs will tend to make the human desire to be important experience a grand resurgence.

Had zilch to do with Hitler and Nazi Germany and everything to do with the past 7 years of malaise and self depreciation.


Regan is hardly a president one ought to admire.

He sent big government into overdrive!


I would say all the USA problems and its slow decline started under him.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 04:41 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

I don't entirely disagree with you, which is why I said the GOP's greatest modern "icon." He is looked back upon with a fondness that is more reflective of what he stood for and what people saw in him than in the reality of his 8 years in office. That said, he was head and shoulders above anyone whose been in the office since him.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 05:35 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Godwin's Law does not apply when engaging with an actual Nazi. The ideology still exists, any many call themselves Nazis with pride. There are many more Fascists than Nazis, although Fascists generally don't like to own the title. Here are a list of characteristics that define Fascism and its subset, Nazism:

Fascism:

The individual exists to serve the State.
Power is concentrated in the hands of a charismatic individual who rules by proclamation.
Capital is respected, labor is not.
The economy has free markets, but industrial production is directed by the State.
The State's power is enforced by secret police and rubber-stamp courts.
The State controls all media, absolutely.
There is only one effective Party. Opposition parties exist only to help the secret police.
Attendance at party rallies is mandatory.
The State co-opts the functions of religion; religions are tolerated only to the degree they can be co-opted.
The State is identified with the "Nation," an ill defined concept that separates the State from its neighbors.
The State convinces its citizens that it is under threat from within and without; this justifies militarism.
Any cultural activity that does not serve the State is deemed "degenerate," and eventually banned.

Nazism:

In addition to all of the above, Nazism also has these characteristics:

A belief in racial superiority. The actual Nazis believed that the "white" or "Aryan" races are superior, but Nazi-like movements in other countries have been known to substitute tribal or religious criteria.
An identification of Jews as the chief enemy of the State, and therefore people.
An obsessive quest for "purity," racially, culturally, and even symbolically (art, food, literature).
The purification of the population through genocide.
The complete replacement of religion with a Neo-Pagan cult with both public and secret myths and rituals.

For a discussion of contemporary Fascism and fascist influenced groups:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Under Vladimir Putin, Russia has become a classic Fascist state. Under Modi, India is moving from a Socialist state with an economic space for free markets, towards a Nazi state, with religion taking the place of race. (Note that Hindu Fundamentalism reinforces the caste system, which is fundamentally race-based.) China has recently moved from a Marxist-Leninist state to a Fascist one, with spectacular economic results. Japan remains fundamentally Fascist, despite its post-war constitution, and Indonesia is proudly Fascist.

The xenophobia displayed by certain American politicians is certainly similar to that espoused by Fascists and Nazis, but it is not clear that any of them would impose the cult of personality central to a State centered culture. Nevertheless, when evaluating what a politician says, be aware that there are unspoken assumptions. If a politician seems to think that they alone are capable of "saving" the nation, it may be coming from the narcissism at the center of the cult of personality that is at the heart of Fascism.

ETA: The countries which were ruled by the Ba'ath Party were classic Nazi states. Many high ranking Nazis fled Germany at the end of the war and converted to Islam, going on to plant the seeds of totalitarianism and Anti-Semitism in Muslim areas.

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posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

I aint worried about Trump, I don't why why other people are.

NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 10:30 AM
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I think if we replaced the term Muslim with Jews. The comparison with trump may be a little more obvious the making America great again also has rings Of hitters appeal to nationalism.

But no trump is no hitler.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Vroomfondel

So...just don't make yourself a known political enemy? Doesn't sound like he rounded up everyone's guns to me, just the people Hitler thought were a "threat".

What if tomorrow Trump said he wanted to take guns away from all Muslims? That actually could be something he'd say/do.


The take away lesson from that is TPTB can declare anyone a political enemy or consider them a threat at any time. And without ever having committed a crime.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
I don't think we can say that any one politician is a Nazi or even close. But we can point-out tactics and rhetoric that is similar to those used by Nazis.

There is no mistake that certain politicians and media outlets deserve the comparison and what they are doing is dangerous.


I think it should be a requirement in the senior year of high school, to read "Mein Kampf" and discuss it....it explains how smart German people at that time, were fooled by the Nazi's decade long propaganda machine.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: jimmyx I definitely think looking img at the propaganda of goebels during the rise of nazism is worth a look. To see how they used imagery in children's text books even innocent maths books is very telling. I'm glad I studied 20th century European history. It always raised the question of how good people went along with the propaganda and allowed such crimes against humanity to occur and how easily history can repeat itself.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: neo96


I aint worried about Trump, I don't why why other people are.


It's not Trump that is troubling, it is the fact that so many voters approve his violence and intolerance that is so troubling.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: neo96


I aint worried about Trump, I don't why why other people are.


It's not Trump that is troubling, it is the fact that so many voters approve his violence and intolerance that is so troubling.


Really ?

Trump supporters aint nothing like I saw with Occupy,Ferguson, and BLM.


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