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Your a Nazi! No YOUR a Nazi! No You are. No YOU ARE!

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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Exactly. "Make America Great Again" is very similar to what Hitler promised the German people.



To all Germans he promised to restore German honour by tearing up the hated Treaty of Versailles and by making Germany great again.

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I see a lot of these same ideas/concepts being touted today by people like Trump and the GOP:



Germans were swept up in this orderly, intensely purposeful mass movement bent on restoring their country to its dignity, pride, and grandeur as well as to dominance on the European stage. Economic recovery from the effects of the Great Depression and the forceful assertion of German nationalism were key factors in National Socialism’s appeal to the German population.

To it was added the tradition of political romanticism, with its sharp hostility to rationalism and to the principles underlying the French Revolution, its emphasis on instinct and the past, and its proclamation of the rights of Friedrich Nietzsche’s exceptional individual (the Übermensch [“Superman”]) over all universal law and rules.

Encyclopedia Britanica

This "Make America Great Again" by erecting walls and iron-fisted military might isn't that much different. The "Make Germany Great" rhetoric was so ingrained that even Nazi war criminals at the Nuremberg trials still believed it:



I am dying innocent. The sentence is wrong. God protect Germany and make Germany great again. Long live Germany! God protect my family!


That was by a man named Fritz Sauckel, who was responsible for enslaving millions of men and children, and one of the 24 "biggest fish" at the war crimes trials. He also mentioned what became of communists and social democrats at the trial:



Only Communists and Social Democrats who acted against the state were incarcerated. Most of the Communists and Social Democrats I had known became Nazis later. Only those who were doing anything against the state were thrown in concentration camps.

Wikiquote

That one is new to me, thought it was interesting.




posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:31 PM
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In Trumps case as soon as he stopped speaking.

It didn't matter the vetting process or the DHS policy of not checking social media failure in the least.

Theres epic flaws there, and no one cares.

Only Trump's a racist for speaking what should be done until the process is fixed. Then immigration can be restored.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:31 PM
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So...just don't make yourself a known political enemy? Doesn't sound like he rounded up everyone's guns to me, just the people Hitler thought were a "threat".

What if tomorrow Trump said he wanted to take guns away from all Muslims? That actually could be something he'd say/do.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:32 PM
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Exactly. "Make America Great Again" is very similar to what Hitler promised the German people.


Yes We Can.

Hope and Change.

Forward.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

If the Nazi's built efficient toilets and others used their model, does it make them Nazi's because they use the same type of toilet?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:37 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

That is what I am trying to convey.

There are specific similarities, that are unprecedented until the Nazis, to that which we experience today.

Where will we draw the line between reasonable talk about Nazis propaganda tactics, and Godwin's Law?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:39 PM
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No, those aren't "nationalistic" they don't reference the country specifically and invoke some kind of national "power" aka "greatness".

The three you list aren't nationalistic and related to American pride and patriotism.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: MystikMushroom

If the Nazi's built efficient toilets and others used their model, does it make them Nazi's because they use the same type of toilet?


Would the toilets themselves legitimize the death of millions of people to the German population through propaganda?

We made it to the moon with Nazi help, but we don't call NASA Nazis.

What we are talking about is very specific.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:41 PM
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I said that Trump wasn't a Nazi already. He does appear to be using Nazi-inspired propaganda.

If Nazi's invented the toilet, I'd call them Nazi toilets, sure.

Ruger made a 9mm Luger, but we didn't call them a "Nazi gun company".

Ideologies are what make a political party and "thing" -- not inventions or objects. Thoughts, beliefs -- those are what make a Nazi a Nazi, not what toilet they invent or gun they produce.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Vroomfondel

So...just don't make yourself a known political enemy? Doesn't sound like he rounded up everyone's guns to me, just the people Hitler thought were a "threat".

What if tomorrow Trump said he wanted to take guns away from all Muslims? That actually could be something he'd say/do.




Dems and Reps are both wrong on guns It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions. Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000




For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record. Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000


www.ontheissues.org...

Trump goes after them. I would be calling him a NAZI.

LOL.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:46 PM
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Tools. All propaganda is, is a tool. Whom wields the tool determines the outcome.

I could use a hammer to build a house or to bash someone's head in. Just because I choose to use it to build a house by no means, means that I am a head-basher.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:49 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: neo96

No, those aren't "nationalistic" they don't reference the country specifically and invoke some kind of national "power" aka "greatness".

The three you list aren't nationalistic and related to American pride and patriotism.


Forget about the red,white, and blue logo in ALL of them ?


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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Tools. All propaganda is, is a tool. Whom wields the tool determines the outcome.

I could use a hammer to build a house or to bash someone's head in. Just because I choose to use it to build a house by no means, means that I am a head-basher.


Propaganda, by definition, is using words in a misleading way to affect change. To change how people think.

It's not just a tool. It's a weapon that has a much further reach than the arm of someone wielding a hammer.
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:55 PM
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Then I will bow out. Admit defeat. If you all want to associate Trump with Nazi's, then by all means, continue.

I have tried to point out how wrong that is, but hey.

Maybe it's just me.

I'll give in and start associating Sanders and Clinton with Nazi's. I'm sure I can create some obscure connection.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:57 PM
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If you all want to associate Trump with Nazi's, then by all means, continue.

I have tried to point out how wrong that is, but hey.


I've done no such thing and have been very specific in my comments.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
I don't think we can say that any one politician is a Nazi or even close. But we can point-out tactics and rhetoric that is similar to those used by Nazis.

There is no mistake that certain politicians and media outlets deserve the comparison and what they are doing is dangerous.


Like Obama you mean.....



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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I'll give in and start associating Sanders and Clinton with Nazi's. I'm sure I can create some obscure connection.


Here's a head start.




posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: introvert
I don't think we can say that any one politician is a Nazi or even close. But we can point-out tactics and rhetoric that is similar to those used by Nazis.

There is no mistake that certain politicians and media outlets deserve the comparison and what they are doing is dangerous.


Like Obama you mean.....


Sure. Do you believe the similarities stop with Obama?
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:03 PM
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I' sure Hillary and Bernie also use Nazi-style propaganda in their campaigns.

I won't CALL them Nazi's. I'll just continue to reference their use of Nazi-style propaganda.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:06 PM
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Well. We did utilize the 3rd Reichs playbook and personnel after Paperclip

It is what it is.

Do you prefer Communism?

Oh, Thats right..Communism Won


Bastards




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