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Republican Presidential Debate

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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Yes, flailing excuses are wonderful, aren't they?


Be the change you want to see, man. I'll leave it at that.




posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: zenartist
I dont understand why Facebook can ban nudity and porn but cant close any jihadi or isil cantent .. re the internet debate issue


It has to do with image recognition. One of the hardest tasks in computer science is in recognizing an object from a picture. The best minds in the world have been working on this problem for 60 years and the only thing anyone has come up with are some very rudimentary techniques.

A couple of circles of different colors for a nipple and so on are about the extent of what can be done. Determining an image is content promoting jihad is nearly impossible.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:55 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80


And with ISIS not wearing uniforms it is going to be hard to know who the families are, which means lots of innocent people getting killed and feeding right into ISIS.


Well we all know who created ISS in the first place and we know who the recruitment's are don't we.


If some one kills your family, you are going to go to the people that give you the best chance at revenge...


But we are not talking about my family are we.

Let them try and get revenge in the end they will be killed.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 10:57 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: introvert

Yes, flailing excuses are wonderful, aren't they?


Be the change you want to see, man. I'll leave it at that.


Touche.

Good night, my friend.




posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:00 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: Discotech


Still supporting him now he wants to build a wall and make fortress America ?


Yep, I am in for shutting down our boarders.


Walls keep people in just as much as they keep people out. Remember the Berlin Wall? Is that really what you support?



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: gwynnhwyfar
a reply to: Informer1958
"Go after" meaning what exactly? Jailing innocent familiy members? Killing innocent family members?


Basically when Cruz was asked whether or not he would really carpet bomb the ISIS capital that is full of "innocent civilians", Trump subtly admitted that that's exactly what he (Trump) would do.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:09 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan


Walls keep people in just as much as they keep people out. Remember the Berlin Wall? Is that really what you support?


Yes, it is what I support. Who is saying that Americans cannot leave the country?

We already have too many people crossing the boarders now and we have no jobs for them. Do you support more tax increases on the American public to give free housing, food stamps, and pay their medical bills? I don't and I am being tax to death.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Informer1958

I am old enough to remember when people wanted to buy quality. You can only find that in small businesses. But since the 80's, people just want cheap.


If you buy quality you don't need to buy as often. That means fewer purchases, which means fewer jobs, which means higher unemployment. That's the real reason we push cheap, it creates repeat purchases which keeps people employed.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:11 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Maybe I missed something, but was this debate intentionally aimed at external threats to our national security? Are they going to do one more focused on internal problems?

I'm not being sarcastic or anything, I just was expecting more variety of questions, or at least a few minutes to be spent on some other "domestic" issues.

Oh well, watching Jeb! (I have to use the exclamation point, I can't resist) and Donald...did you see the look he gave Trump? The Bush family is powerful, perhaps they don't have as much cash -- but they have power, real power. The kind of power that connects you with the right people...the kind of people who can make Trump's life miserable.

Trump is kind of "new money" to me compared to Bush's "old money" family. I could just see Bush getting more and more angry, thinking to himself, "I've gotta get rid of this clown..." Seriously, if you watch it again, look at how he purses his lips and rolls his eyes. He wants Trump GONE.

And honestly, I think only someone in the Bush family with their insane connections to the intelligence agencies could pull it off. Cruz and Carson? Nah, they won't be able to sabotage Trump...

I'm calling it now, if there's a Trump campaign implosion, it'll come from a Bush...



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:13 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

To bad "quality" these days still means foreign all to often.


My Sennheiser headphones are amazing, and will last forever if take good care of them. They're stamped "Made in Ireland". My pots and pans are made by Woll, a German company produced in Germany -- they'll outlast me. My dutch ovens are made in France and should last several generations...

Now my microphone *IS* made in the USA and *IS* awesome quality, but sadly it's an exception instead of the norm.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:14 PM
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Well we all know who created ISS in the first place and we know who the recruitment's are don't we.


Well if you are going the conspiracy route then why would we go after the families in the ME?

I don't think we do know who does the recruiting so not sure what you mean there.



Let them try and get revenge in the end they will be killed.


Which means just more people joining ISIS and trying to kill other people, that is the entire point....
The more innocent people we kill the more likely survivors will turn to ISIS.
Meaning we never get any where.

And I wasn't talking about your family personally, just a general statement that people who have their families killed generally will want revenge.
I bet you would agree.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan


If you buy quality you don't need to buy as often. That means fewer purchases, which means fewer jobs, which means higher unemployment. That's the real reason we push cheap, it creates repeat purchases which keeps people employed.


Yes that is true, however it makes the corporate industries wealthier using slave labor and keeping cost down. Its all about controlling the Markets and getting rich on junk products. Just have to love capitalism.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:20 PM
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Maybe. But I think it was more for the prosperity for the stock market and shareholders. Jobs and employees are necessary expenses. When we demanded quality products, talented employees were an asset. All it takes to create jobs is demand, like in the 70's when you could get a job in a day. The large group of boomers were working and spending.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Aazadan

To bad "quality" these days still means foreign all to often.


My Sennheiser headphones are amazing, and will last forever if take good care of them. They're stamped "Made in Ireland". My pots and pans are made by Woll, a German company produced in Germany -- they'll outlast me. My dutch ovens are made in France and should last several generations...

Now my microphone *IS* made in the USA and *IS* awesome quality, but sadly it's an exception instead of the norm.


But people in the US are still handling the merchandise, processing transactions, acting as sellers, transporting the products, not to mention employing the salesperson on the floor (assuming it's not a web storefront only).



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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Well if you are going the conspiracy route then why would we go after the families in the ME?

I don't think we do know who does the recruiting so not sure what you mean there.


It's a proven fact that the CIA is behind most of the recruitment. It is no conspiracy any longer.

Is ‘IS’ a CIA-Mossad Creation?

americanfreepress.net...

ISIS : A CIA Creation to Justify War Abroad and Repression at Home

vigilantcitizen.com...



Which means just more people joining ISIS and trying to kill other people, that is the entire point....
The more innocent people we kill the more likely survivors will turn to ISIS.
Meaning we never get any where.


I believe we will with ground troops and spies infiltrating their organisations.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: Aazadan


Walls keep people in just as much as they keep people out. Remember the Berlin Wall? Is that really what you support?


Yes, it is what I support. Who is saying that Americans cannot leave the country?

We already have too many people crossing the boarders now and we have no jobs for them. Do you support more tax increases on the American public to give free housing, food stamps, and pay their medical bills? I don't and I am being tax to death.


Being taxed to death is a reason to not support Trumps policy against ISIS. ISIS isn't fighting a physical war, they don't care if they die. They're fighting an economic war using their blood to destroy your dollars.

They can threaten an act of terrorism that costs them $20,000 to carry out, and as long as that threat exists we have to spend $1,000,000,000 or $1 billion defending against a hypothetical.

Every time we bomb them we create more recruits, recruits that will happily die just to make you spend a few more dollars out of your paycheck on taxes to continue bombing them and beefing up security until eventually you and everyone in the country has nothing left to spend.
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posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:42 PM
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Being taxed to death is a reason to not support Trumps policy against ISIS. ISIS isn't fighting a physical war, they don't care if they die. They're fighting an economic war using their blood to destroy your dollars. They can threaten an act of terrorism that costs them $20,000 to carry out, and as long as that threat exists we have to spend $1,000,000,000 or $1 billion defending against a hypothetical. Every time we bomb them we create more recruits, recruits that will happily die just to make you spend a few more dollars out of your paycheck on taxes to continue bombing them and beefing up security until eventually you and everyone in the country has nothing left to spend.


Well yeah, if you want to go in that direction. Now we are talking about defense spending and big government contracts and the Military industrial complex making billions of dollars while members of Congress are making back room deals for themselves.

Yes I can see this ISS terrorist operation raking in billions of dollars for the elite, and dragging this war endlessly. And that is what many of our corrupt leaders want.

At the same time you have mainstream propaganda machines reporting fear, fear, fear. In controlling the populations to go along with this agenda.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:43 PM
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The friction with the US and ME is because of our presence in the ME. The reason we have maintained a presence in the ME is because of oil.

Whether you believe in climate change or not a good reason to switch to renewables is so we don't need to maintain a presence in the ME.


There is more than enough potential Geothermal energy in the US but banks do not like to loan money to build Geothermal factories because they require 3 times the funds compared to coal to build the facilities, however once they are built they provide very cost efficient energy steadily. Coal is about .10 per kWH Geothermal is .05 per KWH.

Or we can keep fighting over resources which costs us trillions upon trillions in military expenses. Durp



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:44 PM
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originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: Informer1958

Still supporting him now he wants to build a wall and make fortress America ?

As opposed to letting millions of uneducated illegals flood our country from South America, yeah I will take fortress America.



posted on Dec, 15 2015 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: gwynnhwyfar
a reply to: Informer1958
"Go after" meaning what exactly? Jailing innocent familiy members? Killing innocent family members?


Basically when Cruz was asked whether or not he would really carpet bomb the ISIS capital that is full of "innocent civilians", Trump subtly admitted that that's exactly what he (Trump) would do.


That's how you win conflicts by bombing the other side in to submission. Putin does it and no one says anything, but as soon as America does it all of the "hate America first" crowd comes out screaming.




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